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Last night at the track I dominated a civic by about 3 car lengths. It was a 96 ex with intake headers exhaust and it was chipped, I have the k8 with intake and full exhaust and a very well kept engine with quite a bit of weight reductiona and I layed him out<P>Mazda:1<BR>Honda:0

ya keep those civics down, they're just rice with all that ebay "chips" unless they swap big a-- engine in hatch from lude like 200hp one, then ... its gonna be bad for mx, id wanna see swapped hatch run against klze, wanna see who wins

My friends stock N/A Supra beat a swapped hatchback easily.....wasn't the 200HP prelude engine, but it was still pushing 180HP. My friends Supra probably has about 225. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

what did the civic had under the hood? Burn those damn Honda´s!!!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mitmaks:<BR><STRONG>ya keep those civics down, they're just rice with all that ebay "chips" unless they swap big a-- engine in hatch from lude like 200hp one, then ... its gonna be bad for mx, id wanna see swapped hatch run against klze, wanna see who wins</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No offense man, but the H22A (Prelude Engine) is a pussy engine. Everyone says "damn, that thing has 200HP." Yea, sure it does. But has anyone seen the factory torque rating on that engine? 156ft/lbs. The basic reason I hate Honda engines. "torqueless wonders" Even the s2000's FC20 240HP engine only has 153ft/lbs of torque.

sorry but civic hatch runs low 13's while kl ze runs mid to high 14's, and civic has street tires on it

h22 hatch on street tires a low 13? Where the hell do you live? Those things bite a-- around here mid to high 14s [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mitmaks:<BR><STRONG>sorry but civic hatch runs low 13's while kl ze runs mid to high 14's, and civic has street tires on it</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><A HREF="http://www.clubsi.com" TARGET=_blank>i think you'll enjoy this more than the MX board.</A>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mitmaks:<BR><STRONG>sorry but civic hatch runs low 13's while kl ze runs mid to high 14's, and civic has street tires on it</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Sorry but you're mistaken. The most common swap you're going to run into with the Civic hatch is the B16 swap. It's a 160hp DOHC motor found in the Civic Si. A 2300-2400lb Civic hatch will not run low 13's with this swap. Street tires or slick, it doesn't matter. Like someone else said, mid high 14's IF they can drive. <P>From what I've heard, the 200hp Prelude motor spins in the opposite direction from the other Honda motors, so swapping it would be a problem.

hey dude, sorry to disappoint u but H22 IS swappable into civic CX (whis is lightest and best for swaps, 2100lbs) u have to buy engine mounts from ebay, u can get all that stuff, and theres tons of civic hathes with H22 in them, right now theres green show car with one on ebay, which runs 13's he has slips.

i am not in any way for hondas but what is facts i am telling u guys, we only have to see who wins, then we can see facts.

"JDM H22A PRELUDE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION SWAP. PLACE RACING MOTOR MOUNTS, WIRING HARNESS AND SHIFTER BOX. CUSTOM MADE DRIVE AXLES. DC SPORT 4-2-1 POLISHED HEADER. AEM COLD AIR INTAKE FROM A 99 CIVIC SI. AEM ADJUSTABLE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR. AEM CAM GEARS. CENTER FORCE DUAL FRICTION CLUTCH. P 13 ECU, MUGEN CHIP. 5,200 V-TEC"<P>Direct from the auction. With these mods, you're talking nice gains over the stock H22. I stand corrected on whether it was swappable, like I said, I HEARD it wasn't. <BR> <A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 1870961127" TARGET=_blank>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0961127</A> <P>You mentioned timeslips? I see none. And even if there were slips, nothin is written in stone that they're really his. I've seen plenty of people try to pass off other's slips as their own.<P>The Civic CX is light like that(actually just about 2225lbs, which I can prove) because it has the 1.5 motor and such. Once an H22 and tranny is swapped in, that 2100lbs means nothing, cause it's increased considerably, along with the weight distribution being thrown off even worse.<P>None the less, I bet the car is quick, and with those mods, maybe he can run low 13's, but we weren't talking about a well modified H22, we were talking 200hp. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]<P>[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: thecause17 ]<p>[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: thecause17 ]

check this out dude, not to bring mazda down but if someone i heard said "torqueless wonders" heres some torque for u check this one out, its even faster high 12's<BR><A HREF="http://www.zex.com/Gallery/MMP_4_06_02/" TARGET=_blank>12 sec civic</A>

removed,<p>[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: Custommx3 ]

Are you just looking to start stuff? [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]