Re: At last, MX-6 ECU + KL02 vs. Probinator + JE50 dyno resu
Posted: August 1st, 2010, 11:42 pm
BEHOLD! For I have found the holy grail! Lmfao
Okay, first a bit of background: I've got a 1994 GS and I recently did the KL-ZE swap. As some of you may or may not know, 94+ MX-3s use only one coolant sensor and supposedly chipping the ECU with a Probinator chip results in the need of the second coolant sensor or you will be left with the infamous problem of the rad fan being constantly on. After talking with a bunch of MX-3 veterans (most notably solo_ryder whose input was quite benefitial as his bro had 94 Probe) our belief is that chipping an MX-3 ECU reverts it to 92-93 standards. This is fine if you have an MX-3 of that year as your harness will already have the plugs for 2 sensors. I, however, did not want to go through the hassle of ghetto-rigging up some wiring going to the 2nd sensor and ECU. We're not sure why this happens, probably only the person making the chips would know. But seeing as MX-3s aren't as dominant as Probes, the issue was never and probably will never be addressed. The interesting thing I noticed is that nobody with a 94+ Probe/MX-6 ever has this problem, which seems kind of odd, but it got me thinking... This is only speculation, but since the chip is based off Probe/MX-6 ECUs then maybe there is just a difference in ECUs? For example, maybe the coolant sensor info isn't on the EPROM chip in Probe/MX-6 ECUs but on MX-3 ECUs it is, thereby it gets altered when you chip it. Regardless, I wanted to go the safe route and not run into any problems. So I got myself an ECU out of a 94 MX-6 and ordered a Probinator chip for it using my specs:
KL55 ECU
Curved Neck IM
KL31 Cams
KL02 VAF
I am happy to say that I have no issues whatsoever! I'm only using 1 coolant sensor (the other one on the coolant neck is just unplugged) and the rad fan only turns on like it's supposed to when the engine is getting too hot. I've got no check engine light either. As you'll notice the only difference is that you'll have to run a KL02 VAF, but who cares.
You can see the chipping process in my worklog. I don't have any data yet like dyno results and I can't confirm the fuel economy yet because I've still got a few components that I need to replace, but I'll try to get this as soon as I can!
Hope this helps everyone.
-NightShade
Okay, first a bit of background: I've got a 1994 GS and I recently did the KL-ZE swap. As some of you may or may not know, 94+ MX-3s use only one coolant sensor and supposedly chipping the ECU with a Probinator chip results in the need of the second coolant sensor or you will be left with the infamous problem of the rad fan being constantly on. After talking with a bunch of MX-3 veterans (most notably solo_ryder whose input was quite benefitial as his bro had 94 Probe) our belief is that chipping an MX-3 ECU reverts it to 92-93 standards. This is fine if you have an MX-3 of that year as your harness will already have the plugs for 2 sensors. I, however, did not want to go through the hassle of ghetto-rigging up some wiring going to the 2nd sensor and ECU. We're not sure why this happens, probably only the person making the chips would know. But seeing as MX-3s aren't as dominant as Probes, the issue was never and probably will never be addressed. The interesting thing I noticed is that nobody with a 94+ Probe/MX-6 ever has this problem, which seems kind of odd, but it got me thinking... This is only speculation, but since the chip is based off Probe/MX-6 ECUs then maybe there is just a difference in ECUs? For example, maybe the coolant sensor info isn't on the EPROM chip in Probe/MX-6 ECUs but on MX-3 ECUs it is, thereby it gets altered when you chip it. Regardless, I wanted to go the safe route and not run into any problems. So I got myself an ECU out of a 94 MX-6 and ordered a Probinator chip for it using my specs:
KL55 ECU
Curved Neck IM
KL31 Cams
KL02 VAF
I am happy to say that I have no issues whatsoever! I'm only using 1 coolant sensor (the other one on the coolant neck is just unplugged) and the rad fan only turns on like it's supposed to when the engine is getting too hot. I've got no check engine light either. As you'll notice the only difference is that you'll have to run a KL02 VAF, but who cares.
You can see the chipping process in my worklog. I don't have any data yet like dyno results and I can't confirm the fuel economy yet because I've still got a few components that I need to replace, but I'll try to get this as soon as I can!
Hope this helps everyone.
-NightShade