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Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 12:32 pm
by Hy300
Yeah, tickets first for you. No use swapping an engine if they impound your car or just can't drive it because of warrants.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 1:50 pm
by Custommx3
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by pelado:
2.5 cams and TB should be something of a performance boost. <p>Boring the TB would be dumb when you can just swap to a KL.
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Whats the stock size of a KL TB?

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 2:01 pm
by Manach
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mx3man83:
Ya see im thinkin about buildin up the k8 but i dunno...Right now i kind of want to just swap to a 2.5 for the huge performance jump but i really cant justify getting rid of a perfectly fine running engine. I was considering making a custom turbo set up and some nitrous, and i was also considering getting my heads ported and polished since i need to take them off anywyas(need to replace valve seals, burns a little bit of oil). HAHA before i do ANYTHING i need my tickets paid off... :) <hr></blockquote><p>I understand your are quite confuse if you either use the orignal engine, or a 2.5l one.<p>Now, what is your objective? :) concentrate on that..<p>2.5l N/A is more reliable than turbo engine, so it is said. I would suggest swap, for about 1000 US$ with a 2.5l .. ;) <p>If you wanna go drag with it.. well, depends on which class you wish to attend.. just check where you'll be racing what are the classes.. Oh well.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 2:03 pm
by Manach
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Custommx3:

Whats the stock size of a KL TB?
<hr></blockquote><p>60 milimeters.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 8:19 pm
by pelado
What's the stock size of a K8 TB?
Smaller than 60mm.<p>I'll be happy to sell someone the throttle plate from the KL TB that I had bored to 64mm but it would be easier for someone to just buy a used KL TB.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 29th, 2003, 9:09 pm
by chance
I had a pretty good, as well as cheap proformace boost when i put on a set of thermal spacers, did the port matching thing, swaped to the 2.5 TB with the home aid intake, and got rid of my banjo bolt. oh, i also pull the vac line on my FPR when ever i was at the track.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 1:35 am
by 93mxrgs
If anyone wants them done.. i bore throttle bodies.. for i charge 150.. if interested PM me. at sprintchamp02@aol.com

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 3:39 am
by mx3man83
well i really dont have a goal right now LOL!! Im just taking in different ideas...I would love to swap but i just cant justify getting rid of my current engine since its still running beautifully..I mean if i had money to swim in I would do the swap in an instant....ahhhh i dunnooooo maybe ill just keep my car the way it is and have more money for gas :)

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 9:57 am
by andy
Stock Dia on a K8 TB is 55mm. Thanks goes out to Pelado for checking on the 2.5L TB for me. He test fit a 2.5l, 60mm dia TB on a k8 intake and said the fit was great.
Now back to the question at hand.
I'm with Dave on this one. If you invest more than about $1000 on upgrades to the K8 you might be lucky and net 15-20hp. Even a kl-de will give you 30hp for the same price.
With that said, I have just begun the process of modifiying my K8. I know its been ten years since we purchased it and I'm just now getting around to mods, oh well. I won't be sinking large amounts of money into it either. I won't have high expectations I just enjoy working on cars.
My situation is different than most. My 14 year old daughter will inherit the mx-3 in a couple of years and I'm sure its fast enough now for her. no need for KL-DE'S or KL-ZE's.
Things I have done already: CAI,
things to do: Exhaust,high flow cat/testpipe,2.5 TB,phenolic spacers,short shifter, I will lighten the flywheel and put an act clutch in but only when the original clutch fails.
Andy P. 93 GS

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 11:08 am
by BATTOSAI
The Kl TB is not as easy to install. The one I had has all it´s bottom end laterally reversed, which forced me to relocate few centimeters my thermostat. It isn´t such an easy task!

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 11:10 am
by BATTOSAI
The Kl TB is not as easy to install. The one I had has all it´s bottom end laterally reversed, which forced me to relocate few centimeters my thermostat. It isn´t such an easy task!

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 30th, 2003, 11:47 pm
by pelado
I'd bet the K8 and KL bottom (IAC) would swap.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 4:13 am
by BATTOSAI
Not at all! if you look the passages that both have inide, one has an "S" shape and the other has a "Z" shape, they are totally reversed inside. Mine was coming from a Ford Probe'93, don´t know anything about others.

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 2:49 pm
by curtklze
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by pelado:
I'd bet the K8 and KL bottom (IAC) would swap.<hr></blockquote><p>The throttle body from a Millenia 2.5L will work perfectly(not sure about the probe)

Re: Building up a 1.8 v6...anyone done it?

Posted: January 31st, 2003, 3:08 pm
by Manach
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by pelado:
What's the stock size of a K8 TB?
Smaller than 60mm.<p>I'll be happy to sell someone the throttle plate from the KL TB that I had bored to 64mm but it would be easier for someone to just buy a used KL TB.
<hr></blockquote><p>Mazdasly, on the Mx-3 Québec Club is boring the TB to 68 milimeters.. ;) <p>Gotta find more air! :p<p>[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: Manach ]</p>