KLDE Swap Question
KLDE Swap Question
Hey guys been a long time. I miss my MX3 so much. I'm here in Vegas and can't find one V6 with the 5 Speed. My question is can the 5 speed from the 4 banger mate up to the KL or now? Also will the KL have any problems dropping into the 4 banger engine bay? All I can find here are 4 bangers with 5 Speeds or automatic V6s how hard would it be to put the 5 speed from another car into the Automatic? Ultimately ima have the 5 speed with a KLDE. Any and all input appriciated.
-
- Regular Member
- Posts: 1751
- Joined: November 2nd, 2009, 3:03 am
- antispam: No
- Location: Vancouver, BC
Re: KLDE Swap Question
you want a k series transmission for a k series motor.
theres some worklogs with v6 swaps into rs cars you should take a look at. you will for the most part need a donor gs with a manual transmission to do this swap. itd be alot easier/cheaper for you to try and find a gs 5 speed and sell your current car then it would be to swap 4 cylinder auto to v6 5-speed...
try searching a little more. there are a bunch of threads with the answers to your question...
theres some worklogs with v6 swaps into rs cars you should take a look at. you will for the most part need a donor gs with a manual transmission to do this swap. itd be alot easier/cheaper for you to try and find a gs 5 speed and sell your current car then it would be to swap 4 cylinder auto to v6 5-speed...
try searching a little more. there are a bunch of threads with the answers to your question...
- MrMazda92
- Supporting Member
- Posts: 5201
- Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
- antispam: No
- Location: Midwest
Re: KLDE Swap Question
I agree on the difficulty level... another car would be easier. If you're head over heals in love with yours, you need a donor car.mikeinaus wrote:you want a G series transmission for a k series motor.
theres some worklogs with v6 swaps into rs cars you should take a look at. you will for the most part need a donor gs with a manual transmission to do this swap. itd be alot easier/cheaper for you to try and find a gs 5 speed and sell your current car then it would be to swap 4 cylinder auto to v6 5-speed...
try searching a little more. there are a bunch of threads with the answers to your question...
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
Re: KLDE Swap Question
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
Feedback viewtopic.php?f=37&t=66348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
7477th member.
I know you believe that you understand what you think I said but I'm sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
Feedback viewtopic.php?f=37&t=66348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
7477th member.
I know you believe that you understand what you think I said but I'm sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
-
- Regular Member
- Posts: 1751
- Joined: November 2nd, 2009, 3:03 am
- antispam: No
- Location: Vancouver, BC
Re: KLDE Swap Question
heh by k series transmission i meant a tranny that came with a k series motor but i guess its good to be thoroughMrMazda92 wrote:I agree on the difficulty level... another car would be easier. If you're head over heals in love with yours, you need a donor car.mikeinaus wrote:you want a G series transmission for a k series motor.
theres some worklogs with v6 swaps into rs cars you should take a look at. you will for the most part need a donor gs with a manual transmission to do this swap. itd be alot easier/cheaper for you to try and find a gs 5 speed and sell your current car then it would be to swap 4 cylinder auto to v6 5-speed...
try searching a little more. there are a bunch of threads with the answers to your question...
- MrMazda92
- Supporting Member
- Posts: 5201
- Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
- antispam: No
- Location: Midwest
Re: KLDE Swap Question
I know Mike, I was just clarifying for him
That would have confused me when I first looked into it.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
- Inodoro Pereyra
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2067
- Joined: March 11th, 2009, 3:44 pm
- Location: Back in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Re: KLDE Swap Question
...or a 626, or an MX-6, or a Probe...mikeinaus wrote: you will for the most part need a donor gs with a manual transmission to do this swap.
U28sIG5vdyB5b3UgYWxzbyBrbm93IGJhc2UgNjQuLi5odWg/DQpTSE9XIE9GRiEhIQ==
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
- Ryan
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7198
- Joined: April 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm
- antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
- Location: Manitoba
Re: KLDE Swap Question
You need the pedal assembly and shift linkage, and DS axle from an MX-3, no other car.
Its much easier to get a MX-3 donor, than half an MX-3 donor and half a MX-6 donor...
Its much easier to get a MX-3 donor, than half an MX-3 donor and half a MX-6 donor...
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
- Inodoro Pereyra
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2067
- Joined: March 11th, 2009, 3:44 pm
- Location: Back in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Re: KLDE Swap Question
True, but, last time I checked, the MX-3 didn't come with a KL-DE, so a full MX-3 donor is out of the question, and it's much easier to pull the engine/transmission from a 626/MX-6 as a whole, than to get an MX-3 tranny, and couple it with an MX-6/626 engine.Ryan wrote:You need the pedal assembly and shift linkage, and DS axle from an MX-3, no other car.
Its much easier to get a MX-3 donor, than half an MX-3 donor and half a MX-6 donor...
U28sIG5vdyB5b3UgYWxzbyBrbm93IGJhc2UgNjQuLi5odWg/DQpTSE9XIE9GRiEhIQ==
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
- Ryan
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7198
- Joined: April 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm
- antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
- Location: Manitoba
Re: KLDE Swap Question
Did you even read what I wrote?
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
- Inodoro Pereyra
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2067
- Joined: March 11th, 2009, 3:44 pm
- Location: Back in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Re: KLDE Swap Question
Yeah, I did. Did you read what the OP wrote?
The OP wants to swap in a KL-DE. How is he supposed to do that from only one car? Should he start looking for an MX-3 that has already a KL-DE swapped in?
The OP wants to swap in a KL-DE. How is he supposed to do that from only one car? Should he start looking for an MX-3 that has already a KL-DE swapped in?
U28sIG5vdyB5b3UgYWxzbyBrbm93IGJhc2UgNjQuLi5odWg/DQpTSE9XIE9GRiEhIQ==
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
- Ryan
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7198
- Joined: April 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm
- antispam: ~SPAM*SUX~
- Location: Manitoba
Re: KLDE Swap Question
Yeah, he does. From an ATX, or from a 4 cylinder. In either case, you need an MX-3 donor car for a dozen parts... off the top of my head:
Pedal assembly
DS axle
shift linkage + all hardware
centre console trim
engine mounts (KL rear and side trans mounts don't work)
Not to mention if its a 4 -> 6 swap...
Pedal assembly
DS axle
shift linkage + all hardware
centre console trim
engine mounts (KL rear and side trans mounts don't work)
Not to mention if its a 4 -> 6 swap...
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
- Inodoro Pereyra
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2067
- Joined: March 11th, 2009, 3:44 pm
- Location: Back in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Re: KLDE Swap Question
I never said he didn't need an MX-3. That's a given. But, like it or not, he will also need an MX-6 or 626 for the engine, as the 3 doesn't come equipped with the KL, so the "1 donor car vs. 2" argument doesn't apply here. And it makes much more sense to get the engine and transmission together as an assembly from an MX-6 (which, as you know, also has better ratios than the K8 tranny), than to get the engine from one donor car, and the tranny from another one.
U28sIG5vdyB5b3UgYWxzbyBrbm93IGJhc2UgNjQuLi5odWg/DQpTSE9XIE9GRiEhIQ==
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
"The more I know man, the more I love my dog."
Diogenes of Sinope.
- _-Night-Shade-_
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2664
- Joined: January 15th, 2009, 8:00 pm
- Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
- MrMazda92
- Supporting Member
- Posts: 5201
- Joined: October 8th, 2009, 5:35 pm
- antispam: No
- Location: Midwest
Re: KLDE Swap Question
Like anyone calls you to bed?_-Night-Shade-_ wrote:
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc