96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
OK I've been pounding the keys for days and found two people who have done numerous KLZE swaps into OBD2 96 MX3's. They both say the same thing.
To get the klze to run properly:
- get yourself a FPR (fuel pressure regulator). Tune the FPR to about 45psi
- get yourself a kl02 vaf (mx-6 or probe v6)
- use your original ecu
That's it. No swapping of harness or searching for that elusive throbbinator ECU chip.
Thanks to Bastian 5 and hoffman_bmx89 for sharing their knowledge.
Up Date: Regarding the FPR you can go two ways.
1. using an adaptorplate for the fuelrails and ditch the original fpr
2. Using the orignal fpr without connecting the vac. line and install the adjustable fpr after the original one (and of course hooking that one up)
Both will work.
To get the klze to run properly:
- get yourself a FPR (fuel pressure regulator). Tune the FPR to about 45psi
- get yourself a kl02 vaf (mx-6 or probe v6)
- use your original ecu
That's it. No swapping of harness or searching for that elusive throbbinator ECU chip.
Thanks to Bastian 5 and hoffman_bmx89 for sharing their knowledge.
Up Date: Regarding the FPR you can go two ways.
1. using an adaptorplate for the fuelrails and ditch the original fpr
2. Using the orignal fpr without connecting the vac. line and install the adjustable fpr after the original one (and of course hooking that one up)
Both will work.
Last edited by Daninski on May 18th, 2008, 7:03 pm, edited 2 times in total.
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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95 GS Minty Shape Sold
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
i still plan on swapping my harness.. as i want to use a probinator chip..
1996 MX-3 GS - rollin' on Rota Slipstreams, (Red, Deep Tint, Black Lip)
True Straight Neck KLZE with TB relocate. Custom Cold air Intake. 2.25 Exhaust to Bosal muffler.
ACT Stage 2, Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel, Short Shifter with CorkSport Bushings and SS Clutch Line.
Suspension Techniques Springs On Zx2 Struts. SRD Control arm Bushings, Custom Sway Bar Links
True Straight Neck KLZE with TB relocate. Custom Cold air Intake. 2.25 Exhaust to Bosal muffler.
ACT Stage 2, Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel, Short Shifter with CorkSport Bushings and SS Clutch Line.
Suspension Techniques Springs On Zx2 Struts. SRD Control arm Bushings, Custom Sway Bar Links
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
Harness swapping is the dark side. Don't do it Luke.
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
ok.. not swaping harness anymore... just going to repin...
1996 MX-3 GS - rollin' on Rota Slipstreams, (Red, Deep Tint, Black Lip)
True Straight Neck KLZE with TB relocate. Custom Cold air Intake. 2.25 Exhaust to Bosal muffler.
ACT Stage 2, Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel, Short Shifter with CorkSport Bushings and SS Clutch Line.
Suspension Techniques Springs On Zx2 Struts. SRD Control arm Bushings, Custom Sway Bar Links
True Straight Neck KLZE with TB relocate. Custom Cold air Intake. 2.25 Exhaust to Bosal muffler.
ACT Stage 2, Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel, Short Shifter with CorkSport Bushings and SS Clutch Line.
Suspension Techniques Springs On Zx2 Struts. SRD Control arm Bushings, Custom Sway Bar Links
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
Why is everybody so afraid of swapping an engine harness.
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
i would just install it in your 92...save yourself the headache and questions marks.
Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
if obdI engine works in obdII would the same principals apply to a de ... ? get a fpr..and turn it up ? and use a diff maf.. ?
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
ZE's are not OBD2 or OBD1 - they are just ZE's Japanese engines dont have the emissions restrictions that US engines do - so they dont classify them the same way.
Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
Yes zzzoomx3 is correct. It's the OBD2 ECU that can't be chipped so the fuel and VAF are off but we have the technology to compensate. If your swapping the harness check voltages to your sensors there is a difference so swap your sensors too. Whatever.
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
thank you dan - and just for general knowledge, i put a 96+ ZE in my 93 MX GS - it was a very easy swap and the only things i had to use from my K8 were the disti, front motor mount and the secondary coolant inlet. everything else was just plug and play - i havent even chipped my ECU (which is chippable) and i'm kicking a-- all over the street.
Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
so i guess no one has anyideas aobut a de in obdII .. lol great
Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
Hmm... any recommendations for the FPR? Is a KL02 vaf not the JE50?Daninski wrote:OK I've been pounding the keys for days and found two people who have done numerous KLZE swaps into OBD2 96 MX3's. They both say the same thing.
To get the klze to run properly:
- get yourself a FPR (fuel pressure regulator). Tune the FPR to about 45psi
- get yourself a kl02 vaf (mx-6 or probe v6)
- use your original ecu
That's it. No swapping of harness or searching for that elusive throbbinator ECU chip.
Thanks to Bastian 5 and hoffman_bmx89 for sharing their knowledge.
- Gord
1996 MX-3 GS-ZE 2.5L 5spd
KLZE+LSD / Headers / KL02 VAF / Clutchmasters stage-I / Fidanza 9lb flywheel / Eibach Pro Kit / Tokico HPs / Urethane bushings & mounts / SSR Comp-C 16x7 / General Exclaim UHP 205/45R16 / Wilwood 13" brakes / Whiteline rear swaybar / Carputer / Software Crossover / Infinity components+subs / 41hz Tripath Amp9 / Trunk SLA batt / Keyless entry
1996 MX-3 GS-ZE 2.5L 5spd
KLZE+LSD / Headers / KL02 VAF / Clutchmasters stage-I / Fidanza 9lb flywheel / Eibach Pro Kit / Tokico HPs / Urethane bushings & mounts / SSR Comp-C 16x7 / General Exclaim UHP 205/45R16 / Wilwood 13" brakes / Whiteline rear swaybar / Carputer / Software Crossover / Infinity components+subs / 41hz Tripath Amp9 / Trunk SLA batt / Keyless entry
Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
I'm going to find out the significance of using a FPR on the 96. I'll look at my JE50 and compare it to my KL02. As far as I know their different. I was told to swap out the JE50 for the KL02 so I assumed (a-- out of you and me) the KL02 allowed more air flow?????
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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Re: 96 MX3 OBD2 KLZE set up Instructions
Hmm, maybe.. but I thought maybe it just reports slightly more/less airflow to the computer (ie. higher/lower voltage).Daninski wrote:I'm going to find out the significance of using a FPR on the 96. I'll look at my JE50 and compare it to my KL02. As far as I know their different. I was told to swap out the JE50 for the KL02 so I assumed (a-- out of you and me) the KL02 allowed more air flow?????
- Gord
1996 MX-3 GS-ZE 2.5L 5spd
KLZE+LSD / Headers / KL02 VAF / Clutchmasters stage-I / Fidanza 9lb flywheel / Eibach Pro Kit / Tokico HPs / Urethane bushings & mounts / SSR Comp-C 16x7 / General Exclaim UHP 205/45R16 / Wilwood 13" brakes / Whiteline rear swaybar / Carputer / Software Crossover / Infinity components+subs / 41hz Tripath Amp9 / Trunk SLA batt / Keyless entry
1996 MX-3 GS-ZE 2.5L 5spd
KLZE+LSD / Headers / KL02 VAF / Clutchmasters stage-I / Fidanza 9lb flywheel / Eibach Pro Kit / Tokico HPs / Urethane bushings & mounts / SSR Comp-C 16x7 / General Exclaim UHP 205/45R16 / Wilwood 13" brakes / Whiteline rear swaybar / Carputer / Software Crossover / Infinity components+subs / 41hz Tripath Amp9 / Trunk SLA batt / Keyless entry