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96mx-3 · Post by **96mx-3** » September 17th, 2006, 11:33 pm

hey im looking to buy some cams probably i have a 96 1.8l v6 can any one help omeo ut as to which cams shoudl i get and if its worth it and how much im gunan be spending roughly ...and i wasthinkin about gettin light wieght pistons to if anyone knows about that...plz help..

Post by **Custommx3** » September 18th, 2006, 9:30 am

KLZE cams, KL31s ~ $150-300 a set.

Cant buy them locally, have to get them used. JDM only.

OR you could get some interprep cams.

lakersfan1 · Post by **lakersfan1** » September 18th, 2006, 10:24 am

96mx-3 wrote:hey im looking to buy some cams probably i have a 96 1.8l v6 can any one help omeo ut as to which cams shoudl i get and if its worth it and how much im gunan be spending roughly ...and i wasthinkin about gettin light wieght pistons to if anyone knows about that...plz help..

96mx-3 · Post by **96mx-3** » September 18th, 2006, 2:32 pm

alright and those work on the 1.8l ?

what about performance pullys? or is that the same thing ?

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » September 18th, 2006, 5:14 pm

Putting any moneyinto a N/A K8 setup is not worth the money, you get only minimal gains. For the money, or less pending on what you want to do, you can easilly swap in a KLDE or KLZE, and those take to mods better.

As for pullies, they are available, and interchangable between the 1.8L and 2.5L V6's

wagZE · Post by **wagZE** » September 18th, 2006, 5:26 pm

just do a motor swap its so easy, there are how to guides on this website search for: KL-ZE swap Much more power thgan stock mx-3 engine. I never understood why ppl dump money into the stock v6 motor.

96mx-3 · Post by **96mx-3** » September 18th, 2006, 8:42 pm

well the swap is lie k1500bucks right ? and thats for how much gains ? if i jsut put liek 600 into it wont it end up running the same ?

JWMX3 · Post by **JWMX3** » September 18th, 2006, 9:07 pm

96mx-3 wrote:well the swap is lie k1500bucks right ? and thats for how much gains ? if i jsut put liek 600 into it wont it end up running the same ?

youre a newbie like we all are at some point..... so heres my advice

dont put any money into your mx3 right now, and spend a few weeks reading the forum, searching and reading.... then you can learn something useful about mx3s and k series engines

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » September 18th, 2006, 10:37 pm

96mx-3 wrote:well the swap is lie k1500bucks right ? and thats for how much gains ? if i jsut put liek 600 into it wont it end up running the same ?

Not unless you do a turbo. But cost wise, look at it this way, You can spend $600 on mods to your K8, $600 (at most) for a KLDE or $800+ for a KLZE. Even *if*you get your K8 to KLDE/ZE specs, you'll still need to get a new clutch in all 3 cases to handle the power, you'll still need to spend money to get someone to do the work. If you do work on the internals, it would be probably highly recommended to get it tuned and an tunable ECU, which cost money and could be another headache. Turbo and internal mods could also decreases reliability, this could be a factor if you don't have a second car and/or you use the car for work.

96mx-3 · Post by **96mx-3** » September 18th, 2006, 11:12 pm

ok well i think im prolly jsut gunan do a swap for 2,5 lol eveyr one has got me pumped on it... then jsut toss in cold air and headers cams and get a buddys dad to do enternals after that itll be good prolly..umm do u no how much id get for a k8 with less then 90k on it

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » September 19th, 2006, 9:29 pm

Very little. Technically at wreckers charge more since the K8 isn't a popular motor, but since the KL is available in a half-a-dozen Mazda and Fords, their cheeperto buy, but anyone who need a new motor would be better off with a KL anyway, and there's no difference in installation. Because of that fact, they are hard to sell. I sold mine for $200 3 years ago, and it had about 140'000kms on it. It sat around for about 8 months until i finally found a buyer.

96mx-3 · Post by **96mx-3** » September 19th, 2006, 10:42 pm

ok well im gunan save and that will be my winter project..but i wish i could get a bit more for a k8 under 100k

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » September 19th, 2006, 11:17 pm

I maybe an old dinosaur but don't they teach how to write in english in schools anymore????

96mx-3 wrote:well the swap is lie k1500bucks right ? and thats for how much gains ? if i jsut put liek 600 into it wont it end up running the same ?

I maybe an old dinosaur but don't they teach how to write in english in schools anymore????

You have a 1996 Canadian model MX-3 so first you have to get around the OBD-II computer. One of the old retired MX-3er that lived near you swapped in the KL-ZE cams, had L & B port the heads, U/D pulleys, etc. in total spent about CN$2800 (in 1998) engine work and resulted in a best dyno run of 132whp which was little more that consistant spike in the dyno curve at between 3800 and 4200rpms otherwise the total gains were maybe 14-15hp over stock at best. The '96 Canadian GS was rated with less HP that previous years to start. So the stock base line dyno numbers would be somewhere around 112whp at most. Disapointed with the results with the K8 he eventually follow my lead and swapped a KL-DE with a Milennia manifold and eventually "legally" converted the engine managment system to an earlier version due to a loop hole in the law that no longer exists. The ECU for the K series engine don't like modifications in general but the '96 ODB-II were especially bad for dialling back the engine. In the end when he sold the car basically for the engine the last dyno run with the KL was near 190 whp all engine.

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » September 19th, 2006, 11:27 pm

You actually found someone to buy your K8? Usually you can even give them away in Canada there are some many floation around. I still have one in the warehouse with under 40000km that was given to me about 6 years, I'll be lucky if I can get $50 for scrap aluminum. The best deal I've got for a K8 so far is a $200 tax receipt as a donation to a government tech school.

Nd4SpdSe wrote:Very little. Technically at wreckers charge more since the K8 isn't a popular motor, but since the KL is available in a half-a-dozen Mazda and Fords, their cheeperto buy, but anyone who need a new motor would be better off with a KL anyway, and there's no difference in installation. Because of that fact, they are hard to sell. I sold mine for $200 3 years ago, and it had about 140'000kms on it. It sat around for about 8 months until i finally found a buyer.

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » September 19th, 2006, 11:30 pm

I will tell you from experience.. get a KLZE from the start. YES from the start. Im on my third engine, first is the k8, the kf now ze. NO OTHER k series engine..compares to ze.. well de sorta. Youll like ze.

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