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KLG4 Intake manifold w/ TB >>LISTING HAS CHANGED<<

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Have 2 G4 manifolds. 75 a pop.

Cams gone. No fuel rails. I have 2 manifolds and 1 TB.



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Re: KLG4 Intake manifold w/ TB and Cams

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anything special about the G4 cams to the KL-01's?
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Short answer, no.
The KL01 cams allegedly won't fit in a G4, and vice versa.
Some people run G4 blocks w/ ZE pistons because the G4 cranks are cast and lighter, same with the ZE pistons...

but the G4 rods are stronger so some people use them (or just G4 blocks and pistons) for boosted applications. These are basically G4 replacement cams. I had gotten them originally for core cams to get my Colt Tri-flows but Geoff was wary about taking them in case they didn't fit.

I'm going back next time to get the crank and rods. Somebody's gonna be really happy about that.
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G4 cams are for SLA's... you'd need to have the heads because other KL's use HLA's.
So you can't put a G4 cam in a KLDE/KLZE head (and vise versa).

Injectors, rods are thesame for KLDE/KLZE/KLG4
The upgraded injectors / rods are in a Millenia S engine. (2.3l)

Not sure if you can run a KLG4 TB with the intake manifold. I thought it would hit your firewall and you'd have to use a curved neck TB.

The crank is lighter, but that's because the crank is missing a center counter weight.
Pistons are slightly higher compression than stock KLDE. I believe the stock is 9.1:1 and KLG4 is 9.5:1 (although I'm not sure about this)

@Elli... You could make me happy by take the crank pulley and rear cam pulley together with the bracket (holding down the cam) and sensor.
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All K series cams are interchangeable, so far as I have ever seen or heard... The primary difference between the SLA cams and the HLA cams is the "zero lift" portion of each cam lobe. Notice the taper in the SLA cams? That is Mazda's way of saving a tiny bit of unsprung weight. Why? SLAs maintain valve lash at zero lift, so that portion of the cam never contacts the lifter(ideally).
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White...

Rods in G4 are forged, ZE are cast... not the same.
I'm getting an answer on the interchangability of G4 cams with DEs and ZEs.... although Kulluminati is selling ZE heads with G4 cams in them as we speak.

The crank pulley might be an issue, what can I do with a crank (which I know I can sell, for more) with no pulley?

By rear cam pulley do you mean the sprocket held in by a 17mm bolt?

The cams are basically core cams for anyone boosting a G4 (due to the strengthened rods) but considering how rarely people buy colt cams I may end up giving them back to the yard for a refund.
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im really tempted to but the IM...
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I'm curious to see the rod comparisson. As far as I was aware they are thesame. Of course I could be wrong.

The crank pulley can be seperated from the crank, no problem. Not everybody can use a KLG4 crankpully because you'd need stand alone.
It has 36 teeth on the disk instead of 6 standard KL.
If you'd be running a stock ECU, it wouldn't know what to do with the 36.

By rear pulley I indeed mean the pulley held by the 17mm bolt. But it would be useless without the camcap holding down the 2 cams of the rear bank + belong sensor.
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What is belong sensor? I have the black plastic cam caps for the rear head. I have a fresh one I can pull from. If you give me a total list of what you need we can work something out.
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Elli wrote:White...
Rods in G4 are forged, ZE are cast... not the same.
I'm getting an answer on the interchangability of G4 cams with DEs and ZEs.... although Kulluminati is selling ZE heads with G4 cams in them as we speak.
pretty sure you are mistaken. G4 rods are cast as well. They are a smidge lighter but are cast. The lighter cast crank and rods is where the G4 makes its power over the older DE's. KJ rods are forged, if G4 rods were forged everyone and their mothers would be using them for boost not the KJ rods, as you can find G4 rods everywhere. Cams will interchange, but lifters need to be swapped as well from what I have read anyway.
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Thank you for letting me know. I will do my homework on this tonight.
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Elli wrote:What is belong sensor? I have the black plastic cam caps for the rear head. I have a fresh one I can pull from. If you give me a total list of what you need we can work something out.
In this picture you can see what I need.

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To the bottem right is the ring from the crank pulley.
Middle is the pulley from the rear cam.
In the top the cam cap with belonging sensor.
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Wait, you have access to a complete KLG4?

If you can get your hands on a complete engine, I would be very interested in buying that off of you. I have been looking for a while now, with no luck..
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MrMazda92 wrote:Wait, you have access to a complete KLG4?

If you can get your hands on a complete engine, I would be very interested in buying that off of you. I have been looking for a while now, with no luck..
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Wow, I seriously have the worst location ever, then... I have only ever found ONE G4 at a Pick n Pull, and it was in a "builder" car that was for sale as a whole unit. :(

I doubt this is a possibility, but would you consider taking a look at it for me, the next time you're in or around the yard??
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