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I am thinking either Advan Neova AD08, or Dunlop Star Specs. I have to drive in rain a lot of the time I am open to new suggestions. Also for consideration, is weight of the tire. That's why I'm thinking AD08s.

I'm running the Z1 Star Specs on the 8, they're a great tire, but I've only put 5000kms on them, and little experience with them in the rain, but it being RWD, I still drove around with TCS totally off and they stick well with progressive slip (just doesn't snap loose)

Good to know. I think I'm sold on them.

I had the Yokohama avs ES 100's on my car for quite some time and I loved them. Once they start wearing down though you can notice that they are not as sticky.

A little pricey but worth the money are Proxy R888's they are my new favorite tire. not something to commute in though, unless you don't drive far. They are essentially a motercycle tire for your car. Despite being more of a track tire they do considerably well in the wet.

All those tires aren't really ideal for the rain, they will work but you're getting into territory where they're sacrificing tread grooves for a larger contact patch. They are very good high performance street tires though! I'm currently using BFGoodrich g-Force KDWs and I love em. These are all almost on par or very close to each other:

Advan Neova
Star Specs
Toyo Proxes
BFGoodrich g-Force
Falken Azenis

I was never really impressed with the toyo proxes... I would get Kumho XS over the Falken Azenis and I will soon know how the starspecs perform

I almost got the Falken Azenis 615's, but I couldn't get the new K's in, which are suppose to be better. The Star Specs came in at a better price than the old 615's, so went with those.

I ran Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500's last season;they were the highest customer reviewed UHPS tires on Tirerack in 205/45/16 at this time last year, 8.7 with great traction in wet, under $100 a piece. They lasted me about 10K miles and 10 AutoX events with 2 rotations total and never let me down once, even in torrential downpours and on the occasional wet course for SCCA events. That being said, i will be giving the BFG Gforces Nightshade suggested a try this season unless there is something cheaper comparable.

Mooneggs wrote:I was never really impressed with the toyo proxes... I would get Kumho XS over the Falken Azenis and I will soon know how the starspecs perform

Forgot about those! Very nice as well, I don't see them too often.

I loved the Proxy 4's, I ran them on my G3 eclipse spyder GT for years.. But they were a 225/40/18 so handling would be a lot different from a 16" 205/45. Either way i would only recommend them for a nice street tire. I wouldn't use them on any track unless it was an occasional thing. they are pretty good in the rain too.

when I get new rims I am going to rock the R888's. Go BIG or go home they say

Josh wrote:I loved the Proxy 4's, I ran them on my G3 eclipse spyder GT for years.. But they were a 225/40/18 so handling would be a lot different from a 16" 205/45. Either way i would only recommend them for a nice street tire. I wouldn't use them on any track unless it was an occasional thing. they are pretty good in the rain too.

when I get new rims I am going to rock the R888's. Go BIG or go home they say

What size? I was looking at them in 225/45/16. Just dunno if they will fit on the inside with the spacing on my Rotas.

how many miles are you hoping to get out of a set of tires? from what ive been reading, and what i want out of a set of tires i wanted to go with something with a 300ish tread rating. thats a decent amount of softness for grip and handling but study enough to last a few summers. i dont have any input on these tires, but im planning on going with Sumitomo HTR Z III in 215/45/17. $97 a tire at tirerack and they have excellent reviews and compare well to higher priced tires. ill have them within a month or 2 and can give my experience with them then...

_-Night-Shade-_ wrote:All those tires aren't really ideal for the rain, they will work but you're getting into territory where they're sacrificing tread grooves for a larger contact patch. They are very good high performance street tires though! I'm currently using BFGoodrich g-Force KDWs and I love em. These are all almost on par or very close to each other:

Advan Neova
Star Specs
Toyo Proxes
BFGoodrich g-Force
Falken Azenis

FALKEN FK 452!