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no spark (klze)
Posted: January 23rd, 2012, 5:16 pm
by denisizzle
Got a klze and since recently stopped getting a spark. Started it one night and it was fine, next day it wouldn't start. Should mention that the past 10 ish times to start it I've had to rotate the distributor while it was cranking since the timing got screwed up. I accidentally forgot to plug in one of the spark plug wires at the disty and since then it's been getting more and more problematic.
So far I've tried:
- at least 5 disties
- 2 ecu's and a maf
- tried rotating the disty with the key in ON. I can hear the injectors firing
- tested for spark with the the plug out and on a ground (nothing)
- tested the three prong wire going to the disty (wire on the left and other one on a ground) reading 11.5 volts (is this the ignition?)
Just looking for some more ideas to rule out some things, is there anything else I can easily test? Is there a relay for the disty?
Thanks for any help
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 23rd, 2012, 5:33 pm
by Nd4SpdSe
HEI or Coil?
Where the hell are you getting your distys from?
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 23rd, 2012, 5:35 pm
by denisizzle
stock disty. At least 3 of em where known to be working so that isn't my problem there.
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 25th, 2012, 2:48 pm
by Dali
Both my mx3's have had this problem. One was the wiring going into the disty, had a busted wire. The one I'm driving right now needs the wires on the ecu to get banged a little for the disty to work. Otherwise the car does not start, the starter just keeps turning over on starting.
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 25th, 2012, 3:03 pm
by Daninski
Nd4SpdSe wrote:HEI or Coil?
Where the hell are you getting your distys from?
Where do you think, he went to Disty'sRus. Right beside Spatulacity.
Is there a chance since the car would start when you rotated the disty that one of the wires on either of the plugs is loose or broken?
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 25th, 2012, 3:34 pm
by denisizzle
Just tried switching all the wires, no luck.
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 25th, 2012, 3:47 pm
by Daninski
Not the plug wires, the two plugs top side on the disty. I was thinking one of those could be loose or broken.
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 25th, 2012, 5:07 pm
by denisizzle
I've tried many distys so it cant be that all the plugs are broken. As for the connectors they look ok, little bit of cracking and exposing it but I wrapped that up in electrical tape.
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 30th, 2012, 5:01 am
by Mr.mx-3
denisizzle wrote:Got a klze and since recently stopped getting a spark. Started it one night and it was fine, next day it wouldn't start. Should mention that the past 10 ish times to start it I've had to rotate the distributor while it was cranking since the timing got screwed up. I accidentally forgot to plug in one of the spark plug wires at the disty and since then it's been getting more and more problematic.
So far I've tried:
- at least 5 disties
- 2 ecu's and a maf
- tried rotating the disty with the key in ON. I can hear the injectors firing
- tested for spark with the the plug out and on a ground (nothing)
- tested the three prong wire going to the disty (wire on the left and other one on a ground) reading 11.5 volts (is this the ignition?)
I had about the same thing happen to me today i was checking out a dry cyl. Issue. Pulled the plugs to check them started in the front from the timing belt side the first and second ones looked fine had the orangeish color to them from running the piss out of it but the one beside the disty looked brand new no discoloration at all. I thought it may have been a bad plug so i cranked the car and let it run and pulled that wire to see if the wire itself was getting spark and the car cut off tried multiple times to start it and nothing!! Anyone have any ideas?
Just looking for some more ideas to rule out some things, is there anything else I can easily test? Is there a relay for the disty?
Thanks for any help
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 30th, 2012, 6:39 am
by WhiteFinish
Isn't there a relay that's also connected to the spark ?
Re: no spark (klze)
Posted: January 30th, 2012, 7:34 pm
by Mr.mx-3
ok I ordered an ignition control module from advance for $65.00 today I hope that corrects my problem. It just astounds me how one minute it was running and the next it just totally shut down after removing a sparkplug wire while it was running. As I said in my earlier post the plug on number 6 looked brand new with no gas build up or anything and the other 2 on the front bank had a orangeish color with gas deposits on the threads this is from me running the piss out of it I know. However on number 6 the ceramic around the electrode was melted and the top of the plug where the socket head is looked burnt. I don't know if the injector on that cyl is stopped up or it's dead but one thing I do know is that when the car was running and I removed the wire nothing changed no increase in miss or improvement and ten seconds later it shut down with no spark to any of the cyl. I'm getting gas flow because I can hear the pump running,the injectors clicking,and smell gas what cyl.s are getting gas is another story.