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Nightshade question

Posted: September 13th, 2011, 10:44 pm
by ethand
I bought some nightshade to help with my interior lighting mod I'm currently experimenting with (will post up pics when done, if it works haha!), and was thinking that seeing as I have a (pretty much) full can of nightshade left over, I might trial some on my indicators, etc. But because I'm REALLY sceptical about this stuff (I more often than not dislike it), I'm really unsure as to whether I'll like it on my car, so wanted to check: Is this stuff easily removable? If so, what do you use to remove it, and how simple is it?
Cheers guys!
(And yes, I did try the search function, as I'm sure the question has been asked/answered before, but _-Night-Shade-_ clogged up the search engine, and I couldn't seem to find it browsing the forums!)

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 13th, 2011, 10:57 pm
by Inodoro Pereyra
In my experience, that sh!t is a PITA to get rid of.
I don't like it, so, when I bought a car with it, getting rid of it was a priority for me.
I tried the removing fluid you can buy at the auto parts stores, brake cleaner, carburetor cleaner...everything! They all work, to some extent, but it takes a lot of muscle. Finally, the only thing that worked fairly fast was pure acetone, but you can only use it on the lights if they're glass, as it will dissolve plastics.

One last thing: try searching for "window tint". :)

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 13th, 2011, 11:05 pm
by ethand
oh gosh... ok, I might not experiment on my lights with it then! I'm pretty sure my tail lights, indicators, etc. would be plastic!
And I wouldn't have thought window tint would come up with nightshade, as it's not made for windows, only light lenses....?

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 13th, 2011, 11:17 pm
by Inodoro Pereyra
ethand wrote: And I wouldn't have thought window tint would come up with nightshade, as it's not made for windows, only light lenses....?
Oh! Then we're talking about 2 different things. What is it you call night shade? Can you post a pic? :?

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 13th, 2011, 11:49 pm
by wytbishop
http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/niteshades/

I've never tried to remove it but I'm guessing it wouldnt' come off easily. It's VHT paint so it'll stick on there like crazy.

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 14th, 2011, 7:32 am
by ethand
Yep, that's the exact brand I've bought, Wyt... Bummer it doesn't come off easy - I had thought I'd read somewhere that it wasn't too hard to do, but can't have done...
And Inodoro, I believe this spray is what people talk about when they say they've nightshaded things like taillights, etc...
I don't think I will like it, so I don't think I'll experiment!! I'll just leave it to experiment with on my little lenses for the interior haha...

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 14th, 2011, 10:31 am
by Inodoro Pereyra
Now I get it. You mean the spray paint from Duplicolor.
Then, what I said before wouldn't apply, but the answer wouldn't be so different anyway. By design, the purpose of a pain it to NOT come off easily. Being that that paint is been formulated to be applied mostly to plastic surfaces, I'm pretty sure it includes some kind of mordant (I don't know if that's the right term), to make is fuse with the surface being painted. I'd think, the only way to get rid of it, would be to sand and polish your lights. :shrug:

Either way, if you're not sure you'll like it, you can always experiment on a friend's car. There are lots of guys that would really appreciate the gesture.

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 14th, 2011, 10:42 am
by wytbishop
I did my tails a few weeks ago with a spare set I had and I do like it. But yeah, being a high temp paint and made specifically for plastic it's made to stick.

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 14th, 2011, 7:57 pm
by ethand
Haha Inodoro, the question is not whether I will like it in general, but whether I will like it on my car specifically haha... I often don't like it, but there is the occasional application where it looks great... I'm just unsure as to whether my car (mostly red/black) will look good with the lights tinted black...

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 15th, 2011, 5:41 pm
by Inodoro Pereyra
Hmmm...there's a fairly cheap product called MonoKote (sold in hobby stores) that you could use, to get an idea how the nightshade would look on your car.
It's heat shrink, self adhesive plastic, sold in rolls, in different colors. You could buy a roll, "wrap" your lights with it (with the adhesive side out, so it doesn't stick), apply heat with a hair dryer for it to conform to the lights, and then use the nightshade on top of it. If you don't like it, you can just peel it off... :shrug:

http://www.monokote.com/

Other than that, I'm out of ideas... :dunno:

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 15th, 2011, 6:53 pm
by ethand
That's a pretty good idea, actually!
I've returned the Nightshade, though, because I had a brainwave the morning after buying it & I didn't end up using it haha...

Re: Nightshade question

Posted: September 22nd, 2011, 12:07 pm
by Josh
The majority of tint jobs I have seen with Nightshade are HORRIBLE. That being said I have used the product many times and I personally like it. I have yet to have a bad tinting job. Its all about the prep and the proper flash time between coats. I did many light coats vs like 3 heavy ones like most. seems most get a dull orange peal look that is crap. mine always turned out glossy and great looking IDK.

To remove the stuff.... your better off buying new. You have to use acidtone, thinner, or try and sand your way threw it. but the chemicals you would normally use to clean off products like this also tend to soften and and melt plastics.

I had a blemish in a tail light and I tried to get rid of it weeks after I had tinted them, plenty of dry time. I am very anal most wouldn't have noticed it. But i got out the rubbing compound and buffer, there was a chemical reaction to the rubbing compound and it softened the tinting paint. It clumped and separated hair from the buffer got in it, I was not happy. It is weird stuff, you have to make sure its perfect when you do it, I wish they had a clear coat. Now I just tint lights with Auto paint rather than rattle cans, its more durable and a better finish.