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camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 2:13 am
by projectzemx3
when i installed my H&R springs i bought camber bolts.

these bolts are a f---in nightmare :evil: i just replaced my H&R;'s for a coil over sleeve kit and putting these camber bolts back was just awful. my srteering wheel was crooked because as you all (should) know, camber effects toe immediatly.

this got me thinkin, when i put my suspenson in i needed a alignment. when i did my engine swap i needed a alignment, when i put my coilovers in i needed a alignment, when i replaced my axle 2 days ago, i was going to need an alignment!

now i was sick of this so i took all four of camber bolts out and replaced them with the regular bolts and now i have fixed camber. this is good because now with one alignment i can take my car apart and put it back together with no alignment,

you could say that i can mark where my camber bolts were and put it back to that. but well my car is pretty much tucking in the front now and close to it in the rear and i have no huge camber issue using the stock bolts.


so what i am getting at here is that if anybody is putting suspension in there mx3's, dont even bother with camber bolts its just a waste. unless you want them to do the opposite and run crazy camber i would recommend just not using them.

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 3:48 am
by umcamara
I agree with your post, but there are times where they need the camber bolts to set the camber right. That's why I just have a set of camber bolts on hand, then when I (finally) go get my alignment, if they're needed they have them. If I didn't have the bolts and they were half-way through the alignment, I'd get charged for nothing, and then have to go back and pay again when I got the bolts.

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 12:34 pm
by mitmaks
how much are those camber bolts anyways?

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 1:22 pm
by hotsiit
I have used camber bolts on a few cars, never had any problems :shrug: They are not expensive, ~$15.00+ on avg.
:)

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 5:11 pm
by Mooneggs
hotsiit wrote:I have used camber bolts on a few cars, never had any problems :shrug: They are not expensive, ~$15.00+ on avg.
:)
x2... running 4 camber bolts on both of my mx-3's - granted they are not extremely lowered (intrax springs) but lowered enough to when I get an alignment I want as close as possible to stock camber.

The key is to make sure you mark where they are at (or take a pic or something) before you take them out :shrug: This extra step is worth the extra amount of life I get out of my tires.

Once I get coilovers I will be using camber plates so no need for camber bolts at that point :mrgreen:

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 5:17 pm
by onlytrueromeo
I hate my camber bolts. I have 4 on my rear and I still have negative camber..I dont know why, I'm only running H&R's. I can't wait til I put the new bushings in, it may be a serious part of the problem. I would also love to get coilovers w/ camber plates...Specifically the probe TEIN EDIS ones, so I can adjust stuff from inside the car :o but I don't have 2k to spend on coilovers. I also don't want to go back to the extremely harsh ride that I had on the GC's. The H&R's ride quite a bit nicer.

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 5:24 pm
by Mooneggs
onlytrueromeo wrote:I hate my camber bolts. I have 4 on my rear and I still have negative camber..I dont know why, I'm only running H&R's. I can't wait til I put the new bushings in, it may be a serious part of the problem.
I'm pretty sure you are only supposed to use 1 camber bolt in the top bolt of each strut! If your camber is that bad I would suspect bent or broken parts, not just bushings :shrug:

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 5:48 pm
by projectzemx3
well if you keep rotating your tires often and flopping them so the insides are out you will get maximum life out of your tires. i just flopped my tires inside out a few days ago so they last longer for me.

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 12th, 2009, 7:42 pm
by onlytrueromeo
My alignment was fine w/ the GC's but I've taken it to shops and they can't get it within spec w/ 1 let alone 2 sets of camber bolts. My front's are fine, it's just my rears. My bushings are so shot, its terrible. I'm hoping once I get them, I'll be able to sort out all my suspension woes. The parts don't look bent, and I can't see how bent parts would cause the camber to be off on both sides, but that was something I definitely looked for when having problems. I think I'm just unlucky...

Re: camber bolts

Posted: July 13th, 2009, 1:02 pm
by Nd4SpdSe
I used 1 camber bolt per corner wiht my B+G's and H&R's and I've got perfect alignment on both setups. I've never rotated my tires since I use different ones for the front and rear, and they're all directional.