k8 - klze
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k8 - klze
hey guys, my mechanic called this morning who is doing my swap. he was asking if the intake from the k8 could be re used as the one on the klze the sensors are diff. and the wiring would have to be extended. is it ok to use the old k8 ?
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Just tell him to configure the ZE to match the k8. What sensors is he talking about, there's no sensors in the intake? The only wiring that needs to be extended sometimes is the ground wire, no big deal. I'm wondering if he broke your VRIS during the install. I'd go and ask what the problem is and LOOK at the engine. Anyway the K8 will fit but your engine won't run properly
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There is the VAF, which is the same JE50 on both the K8 and KLZE.
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Ya, but that's part of the intake system, not intake manifold, and is irrelevant to the intake manifold.
Ya, there's no sensors on the IM, just the VRIS solenoids, but those are swappable.
If you want to make things easy, find a curved-neck IM and i'll work fine with your stock harness. You can use an K8 IM no problem, it just restricts performance.
Ya, there's no sensors on the IM, just the VRIS solenoids, but those are swappable.
If you want to make things easy, find a curved-neck IM and i'll work fine with your stock harness. You can use an K8 IM no problem, it just restricts performance.
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Re: k8 - klze
i went to the shop to have a look myself... theres a sensor from the egr that dosnt have a spot on the klze and he says it will make a check engine light be always on. and theres also only one with on the klze for the knock sensor where there was a two wire on the k8, thanks guys i need to decide soon as im getting the intake powder coated
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KLZEs don't have an EGR, and because of that you won't get the CEL if you get an KLZE ECU or chip, or the probinator chip. You'll need either one of those for it to run properly anyway. I'm not sure about the knock sensor though.
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The knock sensor is fine. I don't remember mine but I'm pretty sure Kp2t's was like that too with just the 1 wire.
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Re: k8 - klze
What ground wire do you speak ok?Daninski wrote:Just tell him to configure the ZE to match the k8. What sensors is he talking about, there's no sensors in the intake? The only wiring that needs to be extended sometimes is the ground wire, no big deal. I'm wondering if he broke your VRIS during the install. I'd go and ask what the problem is and LOOK at the engine. Anyway the K8 will fit but your engine won't run properly
The only connection that I can think of thta needs to be extended is the VRIS 2 connector.
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Re: k8 - klze
hey guys thanks for the great info. still wondering about that knock sensor thats under the manifold dead centre of the engine... well the valve covers, and intake manifold are out for powder coating. red, and gunmetal. soooo stoked to have her back.
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That is THE knock sensor, it's suppose to be there, lol.atomic froster wrote:still wondering about that knock sensor thats under the manifold dead centre of the engine...
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lol yea i know its supposed to be there... its just the problem of the k8 engine have two wires and the klze have only one wire, what should happen with the second wire?
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Don't worry about it.
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Re: k8 - klze
you need to reroute the knock sensor, as with the KLZE it goes to the driverside, but in your car you want it to reach the connector which is located on the passengerside.
it's a single wire with a metal wrapping around the core wire... with my ZE the wire was broken off, resoldered it and it worked fine
it's a single wire with a metal wrapping around the core wire... with my ZE the wire was broken off, resoldered it and it worked fine
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Re: k8 - klze
so how do i know which of the two wires to use?
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Re: k8 - klze
Don't you just plug it in? If you can, plug it in and leave it be, it'll be fine the way it is. If anything, you can swap the knock sensor from your K8, should technically be the same.
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2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
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