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Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 21st, 2008, 4:50 pm
by Micv
Hi,

I've just finished my engine swap (k8-klde) everything went okay, and the engine seems to run okay. Haven't taken it for a test drive yet as i am missing some new suspension parts.

But the problem is i have an extra coolant sensor, and no connector on the harness for it. Is this a problem ? I'm using the ecu of the ford probe the engine was pulled from.

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 21st, 2008, 6:30 pm
by Daninski
You must have a newer MX-3. They did away with the exra sensor so don't worry about it. If this is in an MX-3 how are you using the Probe ECU. I thought that configuration wouldn't work? What VAF are you using

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 6:43 pm
by MX3ak
It's the coolant temp sensor, the green plug sensor that triggers radiator fans on K8.

I'm neending that sensor Micv... Would You be interested in selling it?

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 23rd, 2008, 12:11 pm
by Micv
My mx is a late 94 model but still odb-1. The ecu connections was similar so i'm using the probe ecu and the probe vaf. The engine was originally from a mazda 626.

Remember that this is all EU spec cars if that makes a difference :)

@MX2ak -> If I don't need it we can work something out.

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 23rd, 2008, 12:17 pm
by Daninski
Check the manual, they did away with the extra temp sensor around that time. EU spec??? I'm outta here then. :)

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 24th, 2008, 2:25 am
by Micv
Daninski wrote:Check the manual, they did away with the extra temp sensor around that time. EU spec??? I'm outta here then. :)
:D What was the original purpose of having 2 sensors that close to eachother ?

EU/e-spec. I don't know if the engines are any different from the a-spec engines, but it seems their are some differences between the cars so i figured that it would be wise to include that info :)

So I should have no problem removing this sensor and replace it with some sort of plug ?

By the way the ekstra sensor is black not green. i've hooked the harness up to the green plug.

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 24th, 2008, 10:41 am
by Daninski
Green black, nice to have a choice. I went for black myself. Greens a spare now in my mind.

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 24th, 2008, 11:10 am
by MX3ak
Actually is the gray plug the one that relays the rad fans. I said green before, sorry. :mrgreen:

But they are different NTC's, so carefull not to switch them out

green:
http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... F2-153.gif

gray/black:
http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... E2-014.gif

PS. It seems no Probe ECU's uses the green plug. Only a gray/black one since the ECU uses the same sensor for fuel and for relay the fans.
I wonder if the KL/KF gray plug will be interchangeable with K8 :confused2:

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: July 24th, 2008, 1:18 pm
by MX3ak
Well... it comes out that in fact they (mazda) have switched colors on the 2 workshop manual.

1995 Workshop Manual: Grey plug measures engine temp for Fuel and Emissions System
http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... F2-152.gif

1992 Workshop Manual: Green plug measures engine temp for Fuel and Emissions System
http://www.mx-3.com/manuals/showimg.php ... F2-153.gif

Ain't this weird??

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: August 4th, 2008, 9:47 am
by Micv
I'm recieving code 69 Cooling Fan Engine Coolant Temperature (ECTF) Sensor(1993) now. This must be because of the missing connector. Also the cooling fan doesn't seem to turn on.
Is there anything i can do except for changing the ecu to a newer (94+) one ?
And is it correct that pre 94 kl ecu's are kl07 (Like the one installed now) and the newer kl ecus are kl89 ?

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: August 14th, 2008, 2:58 am
by Micv
BUMP

btw does anyone know a good source for ecus ?

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: August 14th, 2008, 7:56 am
by Daninski
So why again are you using a Probe ECU and VAF(which is the KL02 right)?

MX3ak: if I can get it off in one piece I'll get back to you and mail it out.

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: August 14th, 2008, 3:36 pm
by Micv
Daninski wrote:So why again are you using a Probe ECU and VAF(which is the KL02 right)?

MX3ak: if I can get it off in one piece I'll get back to you and mail it out.
What else should i be using?!? VAF is from the probe,don't know the number, and the ecu is KL07.

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: August 14th, 2008, 6:48 pm
by Daninski
You use your MX-3 ECU and usually the JE50 vaf ONLY. Unless it's a 96 then the KL02 vaf works well with the MX-3 ECU. Use that combination and you'll be ok. Then contact RYAN and buy a chip from him for your ECU aka Probinator on Probe talk. http://www.performanceprobe.com/forum/i ... =15&page=4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Extra coolant sensor KLDE

Posted: August 14th, 2008, 7:25 pm
by ninjajim4
not sure if you misread, but he did a swap to a DE, so probe ecu and vaf pair is ok to use