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No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 6th, 2008, 9:33 pm
by spidy53red
I finally installed my turbo in my B6 and nothing happens. I don't know if i connected to vac hoses the right way. I'm running a T3 w/ex waste gate and a Greddy RS BOV(and i still don't know how to use it). Where did i go wrong ?? I need diagrams.

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 6th, 2008, 11:56 pm
by RS_OBD'oh_2
Ummm.. wow. Don't give us too much info here. No, STOP. Take a breath and calm down a sec. :shock:

I am not about to draw up a diagram. Lets see what we have to work with, shall we?
What type of boost control? Are you running a boost guage?

you need a vac line from the compressor to the w/g. Pending on your type of boost controller... if you have one. you need to run your vac from the comp outlet (like above) to the selenoid/valve inlet.. then out of the unit to your w/g. Very simple stuff. Setup may vary with type of w/g.

For your bov, I don't see how you could hook this up wrong. it mounts on the ic pipe between the turbo and tb. There is a vac line on it that needs to run to a port AFTER your tb. Your choice if you want it to blow to atmo or recerc.

guage is the same.. port after your tb, to the guage. simple simple. You better have a guage installed and working. This will let you know what is goin on. If you are creating boost, if you have leaks etc.

the kicker is... vac lines will not prevent your turbo from spooling (at least to a degree) you may get massive boost creep and blow your engine.. but it should still spool. You may and probably have much worse problems than vac lines. :shrug:

For future ref' make sure you include some sort in information. -scratch- that. Include as much info as poss. You get out what you put in. $#!T in = $#!T out.

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 7th, 2008, 7:32 pm
by se7en
lol, I like that....
It's funny, I just read the part about the BOV vacuum line being attached after the TB....Heh, I guess that's why I am having BOV problems lol.


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Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 8th, 2008, 2:06 am
by tehbrookzorz
What if the wastegate was stuck open?

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 8th, 2008, 6:34 pm
by RS_OBD'oh_2
tehbrookzorz wrote:What if the wastegate was stuck open?
It would still spool. You would not hit 15psi or anything, but it would spin to a degree... unless you have a fairly large gate.

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 8th, 2008, 6:42 pm
by RS_OBD'oh_2
instead of us doing all the work, why don't you post some pics of your set up. It might be easier to point out something you did wrong.

How do we know that you even have an intercooler and not pipes going to/from a sponge or something? Hmmmm.. actually, that might be a solution. That would hinder the air getting to your tb and the lack of "woosh"... which might be a bov sound but am not too sure.
:shrug:

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 9th, 2008, 7:39 pm
by MazdaManiacMx3
It's probraly electric boogie woogie woogie :shrug:

Post pics and info , hopefully this isn't another guy trying to get a post count.

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 9th, 2008, 11:45 pm
by spidy53red
Here Are a few pic's of what was done. Now the only prob i have if my valve cover gasket. It started leaking out from the distributer side and i want and brought a new gasket and it's still leaking. What do i need to stop this leak?? I luv my ride but i don't know what the hell I'm doing...lol. But i did do everything myself minus the down pipe. And yes i do have a intercooler.....lol

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Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 9th, 2008, 11:55 pm
by spidy53red
Ok it don't look like my picks work so i'm reposting them again and in pic #3 you can see the oil leak all over the driver sideImage

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Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 10th, 2008, 12:12 am
by se7en
What are you running for fuel control? FMU? MSnS?

Also, when you changed your valve cover gasket, did you properly clean the surfaces?

They have to be pretty much perfect otherwise they will leak.

Other than that, It looks nice in there :)

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Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 10th, 2008, 1:17 am
by RS_OBD'oh_2
the vac line to your waste gate looks like it is heading up towards the tb. You need it getting pressure from the compressor outlet. You may have to drill and tap the comp side of your turbo (or ic pipe directly after the turbo) and re-run the lines. Your W/G is not getting the correct pressure to operate. You are in danger or getting more boost that you can handle. The gate is supposed to regulate the boost, based on what the turbo output is. It looks like it is set up more like a bov.... not good.

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 10th, 2008, 8:15 am
by shameem
BOV is setup after MAF?

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 10th, 2008, 3:29 pm
by spidy53red
Well the hoes at the top of the WG i was told to put to the VAC and the bottom hose to the BC. And is the MSNS 2 any good also where can i get the complete kit, and sines i only added the TB kit what else do i need? i know i need FI(but what kind) and that 255 fuel pump. Give me a good list of what i need i don't wanna go cheap on my car. But if there are some cheap options out there that won't really effect my car i'm open. And if any of you guys are from cali you should think about going to KINDO every Fri. I luv the look on those roadster guys faces when i pull up :D

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 10th, 2008, 6:08 pm
by spidy53red
I drove my car today and now it looks like the oil is coming out of the transmission oil pan. Should i just buy all new gaskets all around?? and what is cosing all of these oil leaks ?

Re: No Woosh!!!

Posted: April 10th, 2008, 7:18 pm
by cjthor
So you are driving a turbo car with no fuel mods? Do you have a wideband installed so you know if the car is going lean? All the leaks are probably due to you having a bad PCV valve and you are pressurizing the engine and blowing out gaskets.