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Have a BP out of a 95 Escort GT. Mazda Valve cover. Pacesetter Header. ACT Extreme clutch. 95 B6 trasnmission. Running on 95 B6 ECM with hotwire Mass Air. TPS broke but Runs, drives great. Have replaced head gasket. Will post pics and vids later. What's it worth? I will be removing it from the car with axles and wiring harness.

The car has not been in an accident. I just want to get some huge power not possible with 4 cyls and not feasable with FWD.

So you're trying to get more than 500hp?

Pocrobs wrote:The car has not been in an accident. I just want to get some huge power not possible with 4 cyls and not feasable with FWD.

is that so i must be doing something wrong in my BP setup

Make all the jokes you want. You will never be streetable and be faster than 12's in the qtr. We're building a 460CI Fox body that will run low 10's on pump gas and a Turbo LS1 240SX pushing about 600WHP on E85. Not to mention you can actually enjoy driving a RWD car. FWD was fun when I was a kid, but as an adult I put away childish toys. If there was a real market for these cars I'd sell it outright, but since we all know (if you don't take off the damn blinders) you'll never get good money for one of these.

What's realistic out of a BP anyway. Even if I were to put the largest turbo possible on it, not only would it have horrible boost lag, but I'd still be lucky to hit 400 at the flywheel. Ok, so let's up it to a klze. Now lower compression to take a turbo (pointless since you paid more for a higher compression engine). Maybe I'd get to 600HP at the flywheel . Now answer this, ever tried to drive a really high power FRONT wheel drive car on a twisty road. You have to be so careful on the throttle that it defeats the whole reason you just gave up your wife, kids and house just to build another car that will be called a ricer.

Pocrobs wrote:Make all the jokes you want.

Indeed I will.

Pocrobs wrote:We're building a 460CI Fox body that will run low 10's on pump gas and a Turbo LS1 240SX pushing about 600WHP on E85.

I'll give you props on those cars, but nothing that hasn't been done before, and then some.

Pocrobs wrote:You will never be streetable and be faster than 12's in the qtr.

Tell Dave Lauzier that, ~480 BPT GS Mx-3 with full toys and interior ran 11.1, and he drove the car to the track, I'd consider that streetable. No matter that platform your car, there's always streetability concerns with that amount of power. I'm sure that Mustang isn't that streetable either, just cause it can run on pump gas doesn't mean a thing. A 600hp 240, I'm sure that's not that easy to drive either, it is a really light car with not much weight over that 600hp coming out of the rear tires.

Pocrobs wrote:Not to mention you can actually enjoy driving a RWD car. FWD was fun when I was a kid, but as an adult I put away childish toys.

FWD has it's place, it all depends. Obviously it's not your cup of tea, and that's fine. I know I want to get a RWD car in the near future myself, but your insulting comment shows your attitude shows that kind of person you are. You're just a small bitter person that for some reason got a FWD car as a project, than all of a sudden hates it. I guess someone called you a ricer (especially with that Combat front bumper) and you got insulted. What's funny is that there was a guy who was on here maybe a year ago and was like FWD is the best, it's better than RWD and all this BS, his name was "RedEgg". And you what, I argued against him, I argued against him, as well as other, so much, that he left. I may drive FWD, but I know in alot of cases, RWD is better, depending on what you do, but don't tell me that FWD sucks completely, cause that's just as ignorant of a comment as saying that FWD is the best.

Pocrobs wrote:If there was a real market for these cars I'd sell it outright, but since we all know (if you don't take off the damn blinders) you'll never get good money for one of these.

Yes, yes your right, however you should of known that when you got into it, a true car enthousiast doesn't care about the resale, it's about enjoying the car and enoying the project. It's rare people will pay what it's worth as a whole, that's where people want a deal, unless it's something rare or just out of this world unique. A car is always worth more in parts, but no, you are right and the mx-3 doesn't have a demand in the market.

Pocrobs wrote:What's realistic out of a BP anyway. Even if I were to put the largest turbo possible on it, not only would it have horrible boost lag, but I'd still be lucky to hit 400 at the flywheel. Ok, so let's up it to a klze. Now lower compression to take a turbo (pointless since you paid more for a higher compression engine). Maybe I'd get to 600HP at the flywheel .

So your're just guessing. 500hp has been done in a BPT many times. Mazda KL, 800hp and 1000hp of those motors have been done. Boost lag, I don't know, why don't you do it and let me know how bad the lag it...wait, you won't and you don't know either, more guessing.

Pocrobs wrote:Now answer this, ever tried to drive a really high power FRONT wheel drive car on a twisty road. You have to be so careful on the throttle that it defeats the whole reason you just gave up your wife, kids and house just to build another car that will be called a ricer.

You drive a high-horsepower RWD car and you're at the same risk. If you know better, you don't drive a FWD like a RWD car, you can't expect to enter and exit a corner, use the throttle and the steering in the same way from one to another, the same applies to AWD in that mix, you treat each car differnent. Even going from front engine, to mid and rear engine differs on how you handle a car RWD. Athough there's no real Mazda following that I'm aware of, FWD Honda's as well known in touge over in Japan, the Integra and Civic specifically and have their place in the US too. And it's not even about the power. You are just as much risk no matter how much power your putting down, as long as you have enough power to run the car to it's limit, all it takes if to overdrive it by that little much to get in an accident. Besides, most touge drivers make between 300 and 400hp, you only really go over that if you're into track drifting or you have a heavy/AWD car.

Honestly, I know why this thread is posted here, it's cause you're new and you can't post in the for sale section, but as well, that's the reason why you've spammed since you've joined, so you can get your post count up. Personally, I was expecting your threads to be closed and your account possibly banned by now.

Pocrobs wrote:Make all the jokes you want.

its thats how u take it so be it..

Pocrobs wrote:You will never be streetable and be faster than 12's in the qtr.

Im not even going to go there..

Pocrobs wrote:We're building a 460CI Fox body that will run low 10's on pump gas and a Turbo LS1 240SX pushing about 600WHP on E85..

Been there done that i use to work in a Performance shop.. making 500rwhp bp powered miata's, 700fwhp Honda's, the rare 10 sec auto mitsu eclipse, Nissan's and the odd car.. it ain't easy or cheap making a import fast....

Pocrobs wrote:Not to mention you can actually enjoy driving a RWD car..

i'll give u that 300rwhp miata's are fun as hell to drive..

Pocrobs wrote:If there was a real market for these cars I'd sell it outright, but since we all know (if you don't take off the damn blinders) you'll never get good money for one of these.

there is no market for the MX-3 there are a few MX-3 fanatic's like myself that don't really care about what the status quo is.. I love the MX-3 i like being different i like hearing damn who would have thought or building a car like that... I wouldn't sell mine

Pocrobs wrote:What's realistic out of a BP anyway.

there's nothing special about a BP its just a BP but if build right in boost form they are impressive..

Pocrobs wrote:Even if I were to put the largest turbo possible on it, not only would it have horrible boost lag, but I'd still be lucky to hit 400 at the flywheel.

well what do u expect.. u probably think a t3/t4 57 trim is a big turbo i know some people here think so.. in my opinion its small a GT42 is a very big turbo and that on a BP of hell yeah BOOSt lag.. everyone complains about lag (than stick to all motor) which why most like tiny turbo's.. i don't care if i have lag or not but when its on its ON.. as for 400whp it has been done these PR guys are crazy..
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Pocrobs wrote:Ok, so let's up it to a klze. Now lower compression to take a turbo (pointless since you paid more for a higher compression engine). Maybe I'd get to 600HP at the flywheel .

don't like the Kl or V6 from mazda.. never will tight fit in the engine bay hard to work on.. the way u feel about the 4cly is the way i feel about the 6cly.. I hate it in my opinion (no offence to u V6 guys)

Pocrobs wrote:Now answer this, ever tried to drive a really high power FRONT wheel drive car on a twisty road.You have to be so careful on the throttle

why yes i have but why would u drive careless in the twisty's for, if u have a high power FRONT wheel drive car. u must have a lead foot then.

Pocrobs wrote: it defeats the whole reason you just gave up your wife, kids and house just to build another car that will be called a ricer.

i don't recall having a alum. spoiler and a bodykit on mine.. thats my opinion or bring a ricer

lol I hope you're better at tuning your new cars than you are with your sales pitch!

This isnt a for sale section anyways,

AWD FTW