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JDM Power Folding Mirrors break down

Posted: September 13th, 2007, 5:28 pm
by Mooneggs
I'm not sure how much help this will be since I don't know how many more people own these for their mx-3's. :roll: Anyways maybe you've just been curious how it works... so here we go!

I have 3 sets of JDM Power Folding Mirrors that work on the mx-3:

• First set is a set from a JDM mx-6 that I converted to work on an mx-3. These also have a mirror heating function for those frosty days. On some years of the mx-6 they had the same outer shell as the mx-3 it is just the base that has to be converted. The switch that came with it is for the 94+ interior of the mx-3.
• Second set is an actual mx-3 set from a JDM mx-3. These are direct fit and very easy to wire up to work.
• Third set is from a JDM 323. These require a lot of work to convert and I'm still not happy with how they turned out. The interior piece is made of metal not plastic.
• Fourth set was Barry's set. I say was because I was going to try and fix his but they were stolen out of my car randomly :( but I have pics of them. His left side mirror was a completely different design and motor than any of the other sets which I thought was strange.

Here we have barry's unusual left side motor:
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compared to a regular mx-3 version:
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This is the 323 motor (in the forefront) compared to the mx-3. There's not much difference except for the bracket and some subtle changes with how the motor is screwed down:
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This is a stock mirror compared to a power folding version:
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This is a breakdown of a stock mirror's coil:
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And underneath this metal piece pivots on 3 little ball bearings. This is the reason I am unable to adjust the power folding mirrors. They can only move where the indentions are in the metal.
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Now notice the breakdown of the power folding mirror. I was afraid to try and separate the gear and coil not knowing if it could be put back together. also see inside where the motor goes over the gear:
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Notice underneath the metal the difference Barry's vs Mark's mx-3:
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During my breakdowns of the mirrors I discovered there are different strengths in the mirrors for both left and right side mirrors. From Japan they have R100 mirrors on both sides which are very wide angle. The left mirror I got from the UK has R125 which is the same strength as the US right side mirror. Also notice that the mirror with the wires coming out is the heated mx-6 one. I also noticed that only the North American version was labeled with "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" and none of the JDM or UK ones have that label.

All North American mx-3's left side mirrors are fitted with a 'flat' DB18 mirror which is the close up version, and the right side with R125.
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Now I had to do a lot of fitting to make the 323 brackets fit inside the mx-3 shell. If I can find a way to separate the coil and gear I could've used an mx-3 bracket. Anyways I had to cut the bracket then drill new holes. the only problem is that the holes are not flush with the original holes so the shell is just a tad wobbly. If anything hit the mirror I am sure it would break.

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the base also needs to be dremeled out since the metal piece on the bottom of the 323's is much bigger:
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The 94+ switch:
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The 92 switch:
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Posted: September 14th, 2007, 10:27 am
by Custommx3
Nice writeup!

Posted: September 14th, 2007, 10:48 am
by Mooneggs
I wish I had taken more detailed pictures of how I had to modify the brackets on the 323 set... oh well.

I also don't have many pics of the wiring but if you need help just contact me and we'll figure it out ;) It's really simple if you don't use a relay LOL :roll:

Posted: September 14th, 2007, 12:23 pm
by mx3autozam
Protges in japan have power folding mirrors. Probobly the same as the 323. Is there a way to take the motors out and put into a us spec mx3 mirror(like a non power to power conversion.

Posted: September 14th, 2007, 1:04 pm
by Mooneggs
if it's just like the 323 shape I would think so... I'm going to look at some protege's at the junkyard this weekend and see if the metal piece will fit in the mx-3 base... good question!

Re: JDM Power Folding Mirrors break down

Posted: May 12th, 2008, 5:21 pm
by Mooneggs
I took apart the actual switch so you can see the internals... I'm sure no one cares but maybe someone will use this information some day lol

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Re: JDM Power Folding Mirrors break down

Posted: October 25th, 2008, 9:59 pm
by Skuce
You mind if I post this information over on ClubProtege?

Re: JDM Power Folding Mirrors break down

Posted: October 28th, 2008, 8:02 pm
by Mooneggs
do whatever you want with it lol... if you need more info let me know...

the end result of this project was a less than sturdy mx-3 power folding mirror. I wasn't satisfied with it...

Re: JDM Power Folding Mirrors break down

Posted: October 6th, 2011, 10:51 pm
by Mooneggs
as an update, I just found out that there was another variant for the switch from the 323 with a push in button instead of the flip switch:

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also bbunkerc397 did an excellent write up of modifying the driver's side: http://www.mx-3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=78015

Re: JDM Power Folding Mirrors break down

Posted: October 7th, 2011, 11:22 am
by Josh
the push button is pretty dope :)

I have been looking to wire mine up soon. I have to run power to the doors for the power windows anyways so it should be fun.