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klze ticking.. LOOSE TIMING BELT!!!

Posted: March 22nd, 2007, 11:49 pm
by Hayata
just wanted to know if ur timing belt is loose like u can EASILY push the timing belt down with ur fingers... that means my timing belt tensioner is screwed right??? that would cause my cam pulleys to skip couple toothes on the timing belt making my engine tick like madd?

please reply guys the noises are haunting me lol

thanks alot! ^_^

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Posted: March 23rd, 2007, 12:00 am
by TREVO123
Yes. U need a new timimg belt, or tighten ur tensonier
valves mite be tappin the top of the pistions

Posted: March 23rd, 2007, 1:55 am
by hgallegos915
Non interlace engine... valves dont touch the piston.

Posted: March 23rd, 2007, 1:59 am
by Steve_SK
How do you tighten the tensioner? There's a hydraulic tensioner on V6, spring on 4-cyl.

Posted: March 23rd, 2007, 2:08 am
by Hayata
Steve_SK wrote:How do you tighten the tensioner? There's a hydraulic tensioner on V6, spring on 4-cyl.
YEA i already know that the tensioner is F'd up just wondering if thats the cause of my engine ticking right bank of the v6 motor is off timing

Posted: March 23rd, 2007, 2:12 am
by Steve_SK
Hayata wrote:
Steve_SK wrote:How do you tighten the tensioner? There's a hydraulic tensioner on V6, spring on 4-cyl.
YEA i already know that the tensioner is F'd up just wondering if thats the cause of my engine ticking right bank of the v6 motor is off timing
Might be.. it can also be caused by friction spring, if it is coming from the right head (back) of the engine, exhaust camshaft.

Posted: March 23rd, 2007, 3:51 am
by aguiloco
Hayata, I had to change timing (30ยบ over in cranckshaft) yesterday and that is easy, remove the hydraulic tensiones (two bolts), remove the right hand tensioner (one bolt), put the timing belt aligned, relocate again the right tensioner, use something to compress the hydraulic tensioner and clamp it with anything in the hole (I use the car to compress it, put the tensiones under the car and down with the elevator), asembly the compressed hydraulic tensioner and get it free.

Posted: March 24th, 2007, 11:46 am
by Mooneggs
I had this same problem about a week ago. My car was making a horrible tapping sound... I thought I was about to blow my engine but after further isolation of the sound it was coming from my timing cover. On monday I was going about 110 and the car went dead and I thought I had blown my motor but I popped off a few screws from the cover and lo and behold the timing belt snapped. After I got it to my buddies garage, I replaced the water pump, timing belt, tensioner pulley and the other 2 idler pulleys. It's running much better now! :D

I guess it was about time too... about 100k on the klze...

Posted: March 24th, 2007, 10:31 pm
by tehbrookzorz
Hayata. You probably need a new hydraulic tensioner arm. This is the part that applies the constant force to the tensioner pulley. These two parts are behind the left timing cover. I would guess the tapping your hearing is the tensioner pulley assembly itself rocking around because it has nothing pushing it against the belt, thus your loose belt as well. If you've got a lot of ticking but it's not coming from here, describe where you hear it from so somebody more knowledgeable can comment. Valve cover ticking suggests low oil.

At any rate, look into the tensioner arm. Your timing belt being loose will pose a problem. I priced the tensioner arm at a few places. Lordco (currently only in BC and Alberta) suggested a list price of over 900 dollars, which was outrageous. Jobber cost from them turned out to be 125 bucks, but I didn't end up needing it anyway. I called the Ford dealership and they suggested a price of around 300 dollars. If you have relations in the automotive parts business, I suggest you talk to them to get the best pricing.

Can anybody confirm for Hayata that the tensioner arm on the K8 is the same used on the other KL series engines? I've merely assuming thus far. If so, it might be easier to look up as a 93 Probe GT 2.5L

This is also a good time to change your water pump.

Posted: March 24th, 2007, 11:48 pm
by papa roached
yes the timing parts from all the K series will swap

Posted: March 27th, 2007, 12:17 am
by Hayata
i finally got my timing belt parts and everything had to do with the timing stuff.. to my suprise the tensioner arm was soo damn loose.. i took everything out and yeah the arm was covered with dioty oil which used to be in the arm.. i didnt finish the job though i started around 5pm today everything went smooth till i got to the crank pulley bolt and my god was that bolt on there lol.. i used a torch to loosen it then attacked it with my air gun.. by then it was 10:30pm i think so i probably finish tomorrow.. i let u guys know what happens when i finish the job..

other than that thanks alot for all the help and info guys ^_^
gil

Posted: March 27th, 2007, 4:25 pm
by Hayata
GOOD NEWS MY FRIENDS!!! i installed the timing belt tensioner arm tensioner pulley 2 idle pulleys waterpump. my prayers have been answered lol the TICKING is gone ^_^ thanks to this site and all the peoples~! my klze is purring again :)

if anyone needs help on the same problems i been having i'll be gladly to help ya personally (if u live in or around the toronto area.. haha)

KLZE timming Belt

Posted: April 5th, 2007, 9:59 pm
by jackkorno
Just wanted to know since I am new to all this. I just got a MX-3 with a KLZE in it.

What timming belt do I by for it, from what car and were do I get it. ?

jkorno@hotmail.com