Ford = Mazda??

purplemx3gs · Post by **purplemx3gs** » November 30th, 2006, 6:54 am

i was talking to some guys at work and i was sayin how i hate GM, and that Japan was the best. Then they all said "well you drive a Ford". Im like no i drive a Mazda. There like "lol Thats a Ford"

Bling Bling · Post by **Bling Bling** » November 30th, 2006, 7:11 am

Mazda and ford go together like gm and pontiac. Just another division.

purplemx3gs · Post by **purplemx3gs** » November 30th, 2006, 8:07 am

So then these Mazda cars really arn't "Japaneese" Cars like honda's and Toyota's and Acura's?

atlantamx3 · Post by **atlantamx3** » November 30th, 2006, 8:35 am

The MX-3 was ONLY made in Japan.

purplemx3gs · Post by **purplemx3gs** » November 30th, 2006, 9:20 am

Sweet i knew it lol.

jschrauwen · Post by **jschrauwen** » November 30th, 2006, 9:32 am

There are numerous collaborations between the JDM and USDM market which include car sharing. That is to say that the base platform on certain JDM cars were shared with a USDM counterpart. The MX6 and the Probe GT - same engine, powertrain, and I believe suspension. The Mazda Tribute and it's Ford SUV counterpart. The Mazda pick up was also shared with Ford. Toyota also did this with USDM.

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » November 30th, 2006, 9:58 am

Nowadays, there's a significant Ford in Mazda vehicles, but back then, Ford just owned stake in Mazda and didn't really had controlling power in Mazda. Although there are common platforms between our Mx-3 and Ford Vehicles, I wouldn't be surprised if there is almost, if not, no Ford components in our Mx-3's. Back then, Ford was mostly just rebadging Mazda vehicles, or just changed the interior and exterior styling. But the Mazda made vehicles up until the late '90, should be pretty much 100% Mazda, they just shared those parts with Ford.

Remember too that Ford owns, Jaguar, Austin Martin, Volvo and Land Rover, which are very respectible vehicles as well.

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » November 30th, 2006, 12:48 pm

purplemx3gs wrote:i was talking to some guys at work and i was sayin how i hate GM, and that Japan was the best. Then they all said "well you drive a Ford". Im like no i drive a Mazda. There like "lol Thats a Ford"

These days there is a significant amount of Volvo in Mazdas as well. The older models also had parts from Mitsubishi, Nissan and Suzuki as well. In other markets the Familia/323/Protege was sold with a nissan SR18-DE

On the other hand you will find Mazda based content in some of the new Jaguar such as the 3.0L V-6 which is loosely based on the Mazda K serie engines.

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » November 30th, 2006, 1:08 pm

jschrauwen wrote:There are numerous collaborations between the JDM and USDM market which include car sharing. That is to say that the base platform on certain JDM cars were shared with a USDM counterpart. The MX6 and the Probe GT - same engine, powertrain, and I believe suspension. The Mazda Tribute and it's Ford SUV counterpart. The Mazda pick up was also shared with Ford. Toyota also did this with USDM.

You forgot to mention all the Car built on the BG 323 Chassis

Mazda - BG and BH 323 & Protege, 1 gen Lantis/ Astina/ 323F, MX-3
Ford - Escort/ Laser/ Lynx. Merc. Tracer
Kia - Sephia

Mechanically these cars are all the same. The only real exception to this is the Ford ZX-2. The front half is Mazda but the rear has been redesigned to be beefier that the original Mazda design. Although most say the tranny is Mazda G MTX, It seems to be more like a Ford MTX-IV which is a beefier up version of the G (No it won't bolt to a Mazda engine.)

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » November 30th, 2006, 2:53 pm

Yoda wrote:Although most say the tranny is Mazda G MTX, It seems to be more like a Ford MTX-IV which is a beefier up version of the G (No it won't bolt to a Mazda engine.)

So you just use the internals

Tunes67 · Post by **Tunes67** » November 30th, 2006, 3:28 pm

i was talking to some guys at work and i was sayin how i hate GM, and that Japan was the best. Then they all said "well you drive a Ford". Im like no i drive a Mazda. There like "lol Thats a Ford"

If you really want to slam their mouths shut.. you could always point out that the K series engine design was done by a gentleman working for porsche. I cant remember if he was working for porsche before or after designing the engine.. but either way.. its more impressive than ford

Tunes67

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » November 30th, 2006, 5:35 pm

everything was made in mexico! JK well our cars have mitsubishi sensors

but yeah def ford and mazda exact same thing.. oh yeah also kia is a ford/mazda division.. have u seen the kia rio's bp engine?

PWRD_BY_HKS · Post by **PWRD_BY_HKS** » December 7th, 2006, 3:34 pm

yes i agree mazda and ford are the same company with different divisions but my tag still says MADE IN JAPAN

Post by **Custommx3** » December 7th, 2006, 4:49 pm

Did you know the Chevorlet cavalier is rebadged as a toyota cavalier in Japan?

http://www.japan-partner.com/Picture/To ... cture.html

Almost all major car companies work with each other in some shape, form, or fashon.

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » December 9th, 2006, 4:16 pm

Custommx3 wrote:Did you know the Chevorlet cavalier is rebadged as a toyota cavalier in Japan?

http://www.japan-partner.com/Picture/To ... cture.html

Almost all major car companies work with each other in some shape, form, or fashon.

The Toyota Cavalier was one of the best selling toyota products at the time in Japan. There were more performance products from that Cav. over there that there was over here as well. I know a few guys that JDM there Cavaliers back about 5-6 years ago and had people laugh at them at show when they pull up with Toyota emblems on the hood and trunk.

BTW the HLA in the DOHC engines was Mitsubishi's contribution to the design along with the front brakes.

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