Harsh into second

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Harsh into second

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I'm noticing that I'm getting some harshness in my shift into second, [sometimes to the point of grinding if I rush the shift] and it's generally worse when it's first going. All other gears are fairly smooth. I replaced the tranny oil with MT 90 in the hope that would clear it up, but while it has improved it, it's still not great. I know what I think it might be, but I'd like to hear other peoples input. Suggestions for the next thing to try? Thanks for any suggestions.
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Post by Boris »

sounds like 2nd gear synchromesh to me.
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The first thing id do would be check the shift rod and make sure that its not bumping into anything like the heat shield or anything else, but i think i agree with boris.
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JapesMooney wrote:I'm noticing that I'm getting some harshness in my shift into second, [sometimes to the point of grinding if I rush the shift] and it's generally worse when it's first going. All other gears are fairly smooth. I replaced the tranny oil with MT 90 in the hope that would clear it up, but while it has improved it, it's still not great. I know what I think it might be, but I'd like to hear other peoples input. Suggestions for the next thing to try? Thanks for any suggestions.
JP
There are a few things that can cause this, if your motor mounts are on thier way out they can produce a simliar affect as well though. I would suggest chanigng over to pennzoil's synchromesh. Its not cheap but it actually works fairly well and might cure your probelm.
Boris wrote:sounds like 2nd gear synchromesh to me.
Umm what?
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Post by Boris »

torpedan,

I dunno what you mean by your comment (umm what). What's wrong with assuming it's the 1st/2nd syncro?[/quote]
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Post by Boris »

Japesmooney,

If you know how to double clutch, try doing that. If the grinding stops when you double clutch, then it's most probably the syncro. That's also a cheap way of getting rid of the grinding, if you decide you don't wanna pay for the repairs.
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Boris wrote:torpedan,

I dunno what you mean by your comment (umm what). What's wrong with assuming it's the 1st/2nd syncro

Synchromesh is a product, its a lubricant. A synchro is a synchronizer, as in a gear. The sentace makes no sense.
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Mine does that in the winter going into second when it's really cold. But once it is warmed up it is perfectly fine. I think it just needs better tranny fluid.
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DJ wrote:Mine does that in the winter going into second when it's really cold. But once it is warmed up it is perfectly fine. I think it just needs better tranny fluid.
same with my dads protege, its comon among mazdas with hight milage

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Post by Boris »

Torpedan,

Synchromesh is a product, its a lubricant. A synchro is a synchronizer, as in a gear. The sentace makes no sense.[/quote]

I know there's synchromesh lubricant but I'm pretty sure my sentence made sense... Our gearboxes are classified as synchromesh gearboxes, right? Meh who knows I might have screwed up, correct me if I'm wrong so that I don't keep using this term.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=synchromesh
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sorry I don't know how to quote.
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Boris wrote:sorry I don't know how to quote.

Upper right hand corner of the post there is a little link that says quote. just hit it and it will do it for you.
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