got a crazy idea!!

MAZDASPEEDMX-3 · Post by **MAZDASPEEDMX-3** » March 29th, 2006, 8:23 pm

ok so i searched for quite a while and i couldnt find this asked anywhere else. so i was wondering if anybody had ever thought about individual throttle bodys on a ze. i was thinkin about it bc i thought it would be pretty sweet for autox, something i would love to get into.if anybody has ever seen it on our engines or even seen anything that would work im pretty interested.

Tunes67 · Post by **Tunes67** » March 29th, 2006, 8:52 pm

Only engine I have ever seen seperate TB's per cylinder was a 20valve toyota 4 banger.. sweet little engine.. a friend of mine just stuffed it into his MR2. Dunno if this helps at all.. but at least it shows that it has been done

Tunes67

Vanished · Post by **Vanished** » March 29th, 2006, 8:55 pm

I was lookin a super street the other day, and i saw ITB's for the BP and i was blown away...but nothin for the ZE. You guys seen any? For an engine like babyblues or anyother build ze's it woudl be a pretty dope asset. Then you can stuff it with direct port nitrouse...MMMM

MAZDASPEEDMX-3 · Post by **MAZDASPEEDMX-3** » March 29th, 2006, 9:35 pm

yea ive seen quite a few cars with em.and i would love to have that tourqy response but the only thing ive seen so far is universal ones but in not to sure how good they would work http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_inf ... cts_id=432 i also saw one place that said you shouldnt have them unless you have a highly modifed engines...buuuut my friend has a jetta and he was lookin at itbs and the ppl he was talkin to had em and had nothin else done to their motor, and it was runnin fine

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » March 29th, 2006, 10:19 pm

Vanished wrote:I was lookin a super street the other day, and i saw ITB's for the BP and i was blown away...but nothin for the ZE. You guys seen any? For an engine like babyblues or anyother build ze's it woudl be a pretty dope asset. Then you can stuff it with direct port nitrouse...MMMM

ITB for the B and F series engine have been availble around for over 15 years. Before that there were guys with the old E5 SOHC running 180-200hp with 4 side draft carbs. Back in the early 90's there were 2 guys in Quebec running BP powered 323's with 4 Kleine Carbs. Even Mazda offered a ITB kit for the BP-DE back in the early-mid 90's. The real problem with ITB is engine compression or lack of it in a production. To maximize performance you need 12.1 to 13.1 compression to get any power from ITB.

I remember when I was living in europe back in the mid 90's seening a magazine article about one of the Mazda tuning shops in France working on a ITB kit in a 323F-GT (KF-V6)

MX3newbie77 · Post by **MX3newbie77** » March 29th, 2006, 11:10 pm

Here is how to make your own . . . http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/

Its for a Honda, but very easily adaptable for any engine. The only problem I see with this on a ZE is space. Is is cramped enough with just the engine, but I would LOVE to see this done

kiwi_MX3 · Post by **kiwi_MX3** » April 2nd, 2006, 6:56 am

your all just going to have to wait a little while before i post pics
and there is a s--- load of room

however testing has proven that the klze would need ram tubes of
18" to be effective

where as a sinlge plane mainafold has proven to produce the
better Hp and tourqe figure

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » April 2nd, 2006, 8:24 am

I had thought about it. Thing is, it's not that simple to do on a v6. here what it looked like on a turbo car with 2 plenums and ITB, looks sweet if you ask me but I wonder if it's worth it

MAZDASPEEDMX-3 · Post by **MAZDASPEEDMX-3** » April 2nd, 2006, 9:19 am

babyblueMX3 wrote:I had thought about it. Thing is, it's not that simple to do on a v6. here what it looked like on a turbo car with 2 plenums and ITB, looks sweet if you ask me but I wonder if it's worth it

wow that looks amazing!!...i was thinking though i know it would be really tough to put itbs on a turbo car but wouldnt it be alot easyr on a na car?

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » April 2nd, 2006, 9:43 am

same work involved, except a plenum (or 2) has to be built on top

RacerX · Post by **RacerX** » April 2nd, 2006, 10:31 am

while on topic of throttle bodies, can i use a DE throttle body only, take it off the DE manifold and install it on a K8 manifold and have it work fine ?

or use the entire DE manifold ?