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1.6 SOHC to 1.6 DOHC

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 5:51 pm
by WingleBeast
if i were to try a swap like this would i need to do anything other then the engine swap? i assume the tranny and other parts will work?

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 5:55 pm
by Bochek
why are you doing this swap??

Bochek

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 5:57 pm
by Tunes67
What tranny do you have? ATX or MTX? You will have to swap the wiring harness and ECU for the DOHC. They are different. But I think it should be pretty much plug and play after that.

Tunes67

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 6:05 pm
by WingleBeast
im sorry, it would be manual tranny.

im doing the swap cause im getting a 92' mx3 for a rediculously low price, but im not to happy about the SOHC engine. and i can get a MX-3 DOHC engine really cheep also, so i rather do this then go out and look for a more expensive 94' mx3.

i wouldent mind doing the BPT swap, but i dont have the time or cash cause im currently at college far from home. besides that its alot of money for a 12 year old car so, i figure i would just do this simple swap to get me around 120 hp

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 6:16 pm
by Bochek
a 1.6 DOHC does NOT put out 120 hp. unless i am wrong that would be a BP you are talking about. Wich i believe is 118 hp... i might be wrong.

Bochek

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 6:34 pm
by Tunes67
120 BHP would be the BP engine. The DOHC B6 if I recall correctly is 105Bhp.

Tunes67

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 7:35 pm
by WingleBeast
yeah your right, my typing error. but you get the point. it should work right?

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:10 pm
by Tunes67
Yeah it will work.. but honestly.. unless you got a steal of a deal on the B6 DOHC.. you can usually find a decent BP in the same price range.. and if its a HP increase you want.. thats the way to go.

Tunes67

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:13 pm
by Bochek
Tunes67 wrote:Yeah it will work.. but honestly.. unless you got a steal of a deal on the B6 DOHC.. you can usually find a decent BP in the same price range.. and if its a HP increase you want.. thats the way to go.

Tunes67
i believe he ment a 1.8 DOHC being the BP.

not that his hp numbers where typo's.

Bochek

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:17 pm
by Tunes67
Possible.. but if so.. why hasnt he changed the title of his post?

Tunes67

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:32 pm
by Josh
its easier to stick with the 93 harness. you could even run the 1.6 DHOC off of the sohc harness, i dont advise it but it has been done. all you have to do is grab a 323 ECU and plug that puppy in. honestly i would go with the BP as well, you can find them for reasionable prices, i got mine for 200 USD. then you could run the PRO LX ECU.

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:35 pm
by WingleBeast
yeah the hp number were the typo, i can get a 1.6 DOHC engine for a little over 100 bucks, my friend did the 1.8 swap and will seel me his old engine, so unless you can find me a 1.8 for under 100 then thats what i want to do, i just wanted ot make sure the transmission and such will swap out good. is htere anyhting i will need to buy? like mounts?

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:49 pm
by Tunes67
Motor mounts should be the same.. for the most part.. the block is identical between the two engines. The DOHC block has a couple more oil passages but it doesnt change how anything bolts to the outside of the block.. at least to my knowledge. You will notice a slight HP increase between the two.. but you may be disappointed that it isnt more for the amount of work involved.

Tunes67

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 8:51 pm
by Yoda
The B5 is the one that 120hp but dyno results indicate the older 110hp version is making at least 120hp the -ZE is making more like 125hp in stock condition.
Bochek wrote:a 1.6 DOHC does NOT put out 120 hp. unless i am wrong that would be a BP you are talking about. Wich i believe is 118 hp... i might be wrong.

Bochek

Posted: February 28th, 2006, 9:05 pm
by WingleBeast
thanks guys, the main reason for the swich is how cheep i can get the engine for, and the DOHC you can do a bit more mods to.