KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
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KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
I want to know waht is more powerfull on a 1/4 mile for exemple...<BR>a mx3 kl-ze or a mx3 bpt GTR or a mx3 bpt GTX<P>thanks!!
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
I believe it was determined there was to be no more versus questions as they are rudamentary? I could be wrong.<P>Either way, bets are on the BPT as it is lighter than the ZE. It will have more torque but it would be a good match. It could go either way and would be within a car length for sure.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
This is the topic that was opened to try and eliminate the vs. questions: <A HREF="http://www.mx-3.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb. ... 2&t=000118" TARGET=_blank>http://www.mx-3.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb. ... =000118</A> <P>Also from my personal reading experience it seems it's easier to get hp's out of bpt engines than KL series engines.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
i still don't know what the bpt comes from, or the klze. i know it's jdm but what is the car for the bpt? and what years? dosn't the klze come from the jdm mx-6?
Hmm. what to do now..
....maybe a VTEC for lunch.
....maybe a VTEC for lunch.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
Check the 4cyl and v6 faqs for engine specs and availability.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ted:<BR><STRONG>i still don't know what the bpt comes from, or the klze. i know it's jdm but what is the car for the bpt? and what years? dosn't the klze come from the jdm mx-6?</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>KLZE = JDM MX-6, 626, MS-8 (millenia)<BR>BPT = 323 (gtx & gtr), MX-5 (miata), Escort, and Protege LX I believe.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
Non turbo Bp in the Miata only, turbo version is to be sold in Australia supposedly.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maldo:<BR><STRONG>Non turbo Bp in the Miata only, turbo version is to be sold in Australia supposedly.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Just to add something. When I traveled to Sherbrooke, I stop at the Mazda Dealer there, and the 35th anniversary car could be equiped with a Turbo Kit for 5000$, factory. That's the F series. Turbo are not standard.. you have to ask, so it seems ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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Ex Mx'er with a Mx-3 1993..
Still in the Mazda Familly with :
-Mazda Rx-7 1987 GXL (Not running, one housing does not compress)
-Mazda Protege MazdaSpeed 2003.5 Titanium!
Still got 3 Engines!
- B6-ZE : Turbo Festiva project (Waiting donor car)
- BP-DE : Trader for a B6-ZE 1994 for parts upgrade in the Festiva project
- K8 : For sell. Pm me for info!
Once you go turbo, you can never go back!
Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
This is a completely valid question, its a real consideration for people who want to race or get the most out of there mx-3s. leave the moderating to the moderators!<P>Tim Dawson
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
yup the turbo mx-5(miata) in australia is being released soon. <P>In road and track tests that were done it<BR>beat out the s2000. (i hate honda anyways)<P>the power rating was around 150kw for the miata turbo. Obviously you could get alot more if you did a few little mods
<P>also!! when doing the ZE swap, you utilize the 1.8 manifold as the 2.5 wont fit.<BR>Have any of you just bothered getting a new hood kitted in to fit it? and if so what were the HP differences in the manifold changes?? I think the 1.8 manifold is VERY VERY restictive and pisses me off.
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Eunos 30x, v6
KL-ZE, 2.5in exhaust, K&N intake
Unichip, LSD, 13lb flywheel, ACT2 clutch, NGK iridium Plugs, Top Gun Leads...<p>Goin In
Cams, Headers, TB, Extractors,
Bored to 2.8, Mazdaspeed Struts, Mazdaspeed strut tops,
Mazdaspeed swaybars, Eibach springs, Cusco Adj. Strut tops, Body kit, Altezza lights, Short shifter, Crossdrilled rotors and Calipers from AP racing, Braided brake lines, Braided clutch line, Mazdaspeed steering wheel, Mazdaspeed Leather shift knob,
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by davidosk024:<BR><STRONG><BR>also!! when doing the ZE swap, you utilize the 1.8 manifold as the 2.5 wont fit.<BR>Have any of you just bothered getting a new hood kitted in to fit it? and if so what were the HP differences in the manifold changes?? I think the 1.8 manifold is VERY VERY restictive and pisses me off.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Read the FAQ on the swap. The Millenia manifold is used (Eunos 800 I believe) here since SOME of them have ZE size ports and the curved TB neck is similar to the 1.8. The Millenia TB size is the same as the ZE. The Millenia VRIS configuration is very similar to the ZE so if you use a ZE ECU the performance should be equivalent.
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
as I understood the reason some intake manifolds would not fit ie: the mx6 one, is because it will not clear the master cylinder. I dont think hood clearance is a problem [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]
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Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
cool thanks for the info dudes ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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Eunos 30x, v6
KL-ZE, 2.5in exhaust, K&N intake
Unichip, LSD, 13lb flywheel, ACT2 clutch, NGK iridium Plugs, Top Gun Leads...<p>Goin In
Cams, Headers, TB, Extractors,
Bored to 2.8, Mazdaspeed Struts, Mazdaspeed strut tops,
Mazdaspeed swaybars, Eibach springs, Cusco Adj. Strut tops, Body kit, Altezza lights, Short shifter, Crossdrilled rotors and Calipers from AP racing, Braided brake lines, Braided clutch line, Mazdaspeed steering wheel, Mazdaspeed Leather shift knob,
Eunos 30x, v6
KL-ZE, 2.5in exhaust, K&N intake
Unichip, LSD, 13lb flywheel, ACT2 clutch, NGK iridium Plugs, Top Gun Leads...<p>Goin In
Cams, Headers, TB, Extractors,
Bored to 2.8, Mazdaspeed Struts, Mazdaspeed strut tops,
Mazdaspeed swaybars, Eibach springs, Cusco Adj. Strut tops, Body kit, Altezza lights, Short shifter, Crossdrilled rotors and Calipers from AP racing, Braided brake lines, Braided clutch line, Mazdaspeed steering wheel, Mazdaspeed Leather shift knob,
Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
1.8L BP engine come in the 90-94 Protege LX and 91-96 Escort GT, while the BPT engine comes from the 323's.
Re: KL-ZE vs. BPT GTR
I think this could go either way.
Alot would depend on what setup you went with after you put the motor in, IE upgrades.
More importantly, the decision should skew towards the current version of motor you currently have. GS = KLZE 4cyl = bpt
Andy P. 93 GS
Alot would depend on what setup you went with after you put the motor in, IE upgrades.
More importantly, the decision should skew towards the current version of motor you currently have. GS = KLZE 4cyl = bpt
Andy P. 93 GS