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help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 6:24 am
by MoBnicco
ok so i just started looking into engine swaps turbos nos etc.. i was hoping because everywhere i look i see gtx bpt all these letters that mean nothing to a 17 year old kid with little experience, just a love for this beautiful car and need for ownage. so please someone just tell me straight up and simple
what engine to go with i am looking at buying a 1994 mx with about 100km on it and i will sooner or later prolly sooner want to do an engine swap someone gimme some EASY straight forward answers to the types of engines availible and rules i should follow, im looking at wanting a street car for summer use only, and i dont wanna get my silly *** beaten by some flaming civic or crx pos. so just basically a list of engines i should want and what turbo i should get i realize this is a very broad request but ur patients and understanding and help is very kind.
thanks

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 6:46 am
by papa roached
look in the 4 cyl FAQ

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 9:55 pm
by DVH
Or...just look here:<p>IF you buy a MX-3 GS , which is the v6. These are some engines are available to you:
K8-DE 132 HP
K8-ZE 140 HP
2.0L KF-DE 150 HP?????
2.0L KF-ZE 165 HP
2.5L KL-03 160 HP
2.5L KL-DE 160 HP
2.5L KL-ZE 197 HP<p>If you buy a MX-3 RS, which is the 4 banger. These are some engines available to you:
1.8L BP 127 HP
1.6L B6T 132 HP
1.8L BPT GTx-Turbo 180 HP
1.8L BPT GTr-Turbo 210 HP (hard to find)<p>Now of course this is a very quick over veiw for you to look at, but remember, anything is possible with the right amount of money..... :) <p>PS: If i forgot anything or something is wrong, please feel free to correct me.... :p <p>later and good luck :cool:<p>[ August 09, 2003: Message edited by: DVH ]</p>

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 10:29 pm
by UnkleDuke
Hey Bro
I see you live in London...
If you want to get togethr some time and talk some stuff...
I have pretty pretty close to stock, but I'm working on a turbo project.
Whether I have the balls to blow up my engine is another story.<p>Drop me a line. cmorrison@gotmail.ca
Cheers.

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 10:35 pm
by mx3TT
I was 17 when I did my BPT swap. And yes I payed for everything. But it is a great swap to do, if you have the right shop to do it, it an be pretty simple. Check out my cardomain site which is inmy sig and check out all the parts I had to buy along with it.

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 10:40 pm
by lakersfan1
For the K series engines, there are two series of each displacement.....<p>So:
K8-DE - 132 HP
K8-ZE - 140 HP
KF-DE - 150HP?????
KF-ZE - 165 HP
KL-DE - 160 HP
KL-ZE - 195 HP<p>The KF was the only engine that wasn't available in a North America spec car in either variation.

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 10:46 pm
by UnkleDuke
Hey Bro.
I'm in London too.
If you want to get together some time, let me know.
My RS is mostly stock, but it's a start;
whether I blow my engine up with a turbo or not.<p>Cheers

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 8th, 2003, 10:48 pm
by UnkleDuke
I might get a Subaru anyway...
Then my X becomes a project car.<p>Thank God for options..!

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 9th, 2003, 1:49 am
by thebonestockkid
hmmm, sorry to break balls guys, but the klde has 164 HP, not 160... UNLESS of course its 96 and later, those have 160 for whatever reason, mazda decided to take the hp and trq down by 4 each.. 160hp and 156trq.. again sorry to break em but i just felt i should clarify that.. as ridiculous as it might sound lol. lates

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 9th, 2003, 12:26 pm
by DVH
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by thebonestockkid:
hmmm, sorry to break balls guys, but the klde has 164 HP, not 160... UNLESS of course its 96 and later, those have 160 for whatever reason, mazda decided to take the hp and trq down by 4 each.. 160hp and 156trq.. again sorry to break em but i just felt i should clarify that.. as ridiculous as it might sound lol. lates<hr></blockquote><p>thanx, never was that sure, just estimates.......<p> :D

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 9th, 2003, 12:38 pm
by Marlon
and the bp 1.8l has about 127 hp(stock) not 137 but that would be nice

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 9th, 2003, 2:59 pm
by DVH
all fixed , thanx guys for the help ;)

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 10th, 2003, 2:50 am
by Nd4SpdSe
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by DVH:
2.5L KL-03 160 HP
2.5L KL-DE 160 HP
<hr></blockquote><p>
KL-03 and KL-DE are teh same engines, just known differently depending on who you talk to (so dont get confused), but i believe officially its a KLDE<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by thebonestockkid:
hmmm, sorry to break balls guys, but the klde has 164 HP, not 160... UNLESS of course its 96 and later, those have 160 for whatever reason, mazda decided to take the hp and trq down by 4 each.. 160hp and 156trq.. again sorry to break em but i just felt i should clarify that.. as ridiculous as it might sound lol. lates<hr></blockquote><p>Doesnt the KLDE in California have 160hp due to their emmission standards??<p>[ August 10, 2003: Message edited by: Nd4SpdSe ]</p>

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 10th, 2003, 3:44 am
by Custommx3
Slight correction, still unsure about the KF,my KFZE is 170. (many diff models)<p>K8-DE - 132 HP
K8-ZE - 140 HP
KF-DE - 145
KF-ZE - 170 HP
KL-DE - 164 HP
KL-ZE - 200 HP

Re: help me im dumb

Posted: August 11th, 2003, 3:42 pm
by MoBnicco
whoa u guys are frigin awesome, that helped me actualy know what the hell engines were which, i read something about the v6 only being able to be an auto or something anyone know anything about that?
and how hard is the 4 banger gt-r turbo to find i mean on a hard scale of 1-10 ten being impossible.
thanks