Noisy Lifters...How Big Of An Issue?
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Noisy Lifters...How Big Of An Issue?
My KLZE has noisy lifters, i;ve tried putting a cleaner but it didnt get rid of it, i need to do an oil change and see if it'll help<p>My engine is under warranty for just under a month left, so i was thinking of calling them up, but wondering, how big of a deal it is? I know you can mask it by putting thicker oil or some thicker additive, but i dont know what need to be replaced, if i can just replace teh lifters, or if i should replace the engine...
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Re: Noisy Lifters...How Big Of An Issue?
get a mobil one oil filter for a 90-95 zr1 vette and 5 quarts of amsoil synthetic oil and after a couple days the HLA noise will go away oh and the HLA noise is common
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by lazzyie:
5 quarts of amsoil synthetic oil<hr></blockquote><p>What is and who makes that oil?
5 quarts of amsoil synthetic oil<hr></blockquote><p>What is and who makes that oil?
1992 Mazda Mx-3 GSR - 2.5L KLZE : Award Winning Show Car & Race Car ['02-'09] (Retired)
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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93 Mx-3 GS klze swapped(sold)
96 Integra LS DD
91 Crx Si drag car
2.0L sleeved gsr block, forged internals, skunk2 valvetrain, HP racing intake manifold, Holset H1 turbo, 1000cc injectors, short geared lsd transmission, 3" turboback exhaust. 20 psi![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
96 Integra LS DD
91 Crx Si drag car
2.0L sleeved gsr block, forged internals, skunk2 valvetrain, HP racing intake manifold, Holset H1 turbo, 1000cc injectors, short geared lsd transmission, 3" turboback exhaust. 20 psi
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whoa, i year oil changes? (not that i would do it that long anyway)<p>any idea if that stuff is availabe in canada?
1992 Mazda Mx-3 GSR - 2.5L KLZE : Award Winning Show Car & Race Car ['02-'09] (Retired)
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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I've used Mobil 1 synthetic and a mazda oil filter and that really quieted the HLA racket down.
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Re: Noisy Lifters...How Big Of An Issue?
Are you using 5W30 weight oil? I found that even using standard 5W30 made alot of the noise go away, and switching to Royal Purple 5W30 made it go away even more. The only time I notice lifter noise anymore is when I pull into the garage and it amplifies all the noises the engine is making.
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by lakersfan1:
Are you using 5W30 weight oil? I found that even using standard 5W30 made alot of the noise go away, and switching to Royal Purple 5W30 made it go away even more. The only time I notice lifter noise anymore is when I pull into the garage and it amplifies all the noises the engine is making.<hr></blockquote><p>
I know you can do that, but it doesnt fix the problem, just hides it, also, isnt 5w thicker?...i still wanna try that amsoil oil tho. Im currently using castrol gtx 10w30/40 (i cant remember).<p>If the noisy lifters something to worry about or no?
Are you using 5W30 weight oil? I found that even using standard 5W30 made alot of the noise go away, and switching to Royal Purple 5W30 made it go away even more. The only time I notice lifter noise anymore is when I pull into the garage and it amplifies all the noises the engine is making.<hr></blockquote><p>
I know you can do that, but it doesnt fix the problem, just hides it, also, isnt 5w thicker?...i still wanna try that amsoil oil tho. Im currently using castrol gtx 10w30/40 (i cant remember).<p>If the noisy lifters something to worry about or no?
1992 Mazda Mx-3 GSR - 2.5L KLZE : Award Winning Show Car & Race Car ['02-'09] (Retired)
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
Re: Noisy Lifters...How Big Of An Issue?
Correct me if I am wrong.. but I remember reading something about a cam friction gear making a bad ticking noise as well.. I have this annoying ticking that has been there for ages, it only comes in when I am cruising at a speed- (goes away under acceleration) Apparently the labour on this is damn Xpensive.. this may be your problem if the oil change doesn't fix it.
From what I understand it goes not affect your performance, just drives you insane with tick tick tick tick..
From what I understand it goes not affect your performance, just drives you insane with tick tick tick tick..
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it slowly got quieter when we ran it for the first hour when be put her in, than i added some stuff thats suppose to help, and it did, but it still there...plus, my mechanic said its the lifters, so im gonna trust him and say its the lifters<p>im not really worried about performance, it just that if will potentiall do some hard like seize, explode, break apart and damage a piston or something
1992 Mazda Mx-3 GSR - 2.5L KLZE : Award Winning Show Car & Race Car ['02-'09] (Retired)
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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Just had the friction spring replaced in mine total cost £158 inc parts and tax.<p>Sadly it made bugger all difference to the noise so I guess it must be the tappets (HLAs whatever).<p>The mechanic said you could only hear it above 4k, so to ignore it - muppet, I spend more time above 4K than below !<p>Stuart<p>[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: HFStuart ]</p>
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mine it noly noticable at low rpm but mostly at idle
1992 Mazda Mx-3 GSR - 2.5L KLZE : Award Winning Show Car & Race Car ['02-'09] (Retired)
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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Suggest you read this:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy.bradbury/probemx/p_p7.htm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy.bradbury/probemx/p_p7.htm
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Re: Noisy Lifters...How Big Of An Issue?
Read it a while ago. Will be testing the HLAs soon. <p>Gragage checked with a stethoscope (spelling ?) and said the noise was definately not big ends, which is good because that's exactly what it sounded like to me.<p>Question - my tapping noise goes away completeley when I lift off at revs and is most noticable at light / part throttle. Is that typical for HLA noise ?<p>Stuart
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by HFStuart:
<p>Question - my tapping noise goes away completeley when I lift off at revs and is most noticable at light / part throttle. Is that typical for HLA noise ?
<hr></blockquote><p>I believe you'd only hear HLA problems at idle. At least that't the only time I've ever ben able to hear mine.
<p>Question - my tapping noise goes away completeley when I lift off at revs and is most noticable at light / part throttle. Is that typical for HLA noise ?
<hr></blockquote><p>I believe you'd only hear HLA problems at idle. At least that't the only time I've ever ben able to hear mine.