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all right i just blew my subs(bazooka EL1204)again! my amp was at 45% and im pissed. anyways im going to go with diff subs this kind. i have a monoblock 600WRMS Bazooka amp and im looking for 2 12" subs that would hit nicely off this. i was thinking alpine type R's but tell me what you think. im only lookin to spen aropund $500 for both subs. also i know the front speakers are 5 1/4" but people have put 6 1/2" in there. i was gonna buy 2 way so what size and model would be the best. lookin to spend around 200 on them. also i was planning on not puttin anything in the rear since i got subs and theyll get drowned out anyways. good idea or no?

..dude..<BR>i have 2 12" JL Audio 12W0's in the trunk, with just a American Legend 600watt amp..and a 220watt blaupunkt deck..<P>as for front speakers, i have 200 watt clarion's and 2 1.5" blaupunkt tweeters..<P>sound nice <BR>

no offense but i had 2 12wo-8 wired down to 4 ohm in parrallel in a sealed box and they hit weak. im looking for something to shake the neighborhood. the last subs i had did it but ive blown em twice now so i figured id move up to another sub

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by codene:<BR><STRONG>no offense but i had 2 12wo-8 wired down to 4 ohm in parrallel in a sealed box and they hit weak. im looking for something to shake the neighborhood. the last subs i had did it but ive blown em twice now so i figured id move up to another sub</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>What kind of box did you have, how much power etc?

it was 2 12" bazooka el1204 subs in a sealed box. i never metered it but id say somewhere around 135db. not bad for a amp wires and subs that i payed 500 for new.

i have the same subs, sealed, with a 700wrms amp and i'm not blowing them, I believe they take 300rms per sub. You should have been just fine. If you liked the subs and wanna just replace them i'd recommend the chilpac, it will increase your rms to about 400. Then again.. i'm not sure if i trust having prestone in the trunk <P>on a side note 500 bucks and get you some serious subs if you're looking in the market. Places like crutchfield and circuit city currently have buy one get one free for subs.<p>[ April 09, 2002: Message edited by: Sonicxtacy02 ]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by codene:<BR><STRONG>all right i just blew my subs(bazooka EL1204)again! my amp was at 45% and im pissed. anyways im going to go with diff subs this kind. i have a monoblock 600WRMS Bazooka amp and im looking for 2 12" subs that would hit nicely off this. i was thinking alpine type R's but tell me what you think. im only lookin to spen aropund $500 for both subs. also i know the front speakers are 5 1/4" but people have put 6 1/2" in there. i was gonna buy 2 way so what size and model would be the best. lookin to spend around 200 on them. also i was planning on not puttin anything in the rear since i got subs and theyll get drowned out anyways. good idea or no?</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Just buy a 12" IDMAX. thats all you need.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02:<BR><STRONG>i have the same subs, sealed, with a 700wrms amp and i'm not blowing them, I believe they take 300rms per sub. You should have been just fine. If you liked the subs and wanna just replace them i'd recommend the chilpac, it will increase your rms to about 400. Then again.. i'm not sure if i trust having prestone in the trunk <P>on a side note 500 bucks and get you some serious subs if you're looking in the market. Places like crutchfield and circuit city currently have buy one get one free for subs.<P>[ April 09, 2002: Message edited by: Sonicxtacy02 ]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>prestone in the trunk? whats that? i dont know whats wrong with these damn subs!! at first i out the amp all the way up on power and bass boost and i blew wm. my friend had the same subs with a warranty from curcuit city so he took em back and i got the sma one (brand new) for free. this time i out the amp on 8 db boost and had it on 45% power, and they blew again! WTF! i know its not the amp cause i broke the input jacks on one so i took it back and got the same one (brand new). ive blown these subs twice and im tired of them.<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Just buy a 12" IDMAX. thats all you need. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> where would i find one and whats the rms capability?

The bazooka chil pack used in there amps and speakers uses prestone antifreeze to cool the units so they can produce a more effective output.<P>RMS wattage is the wattage that is constantly produce music whereas peak power is used in small bursts<P>and technically you should be adjusting the gain on your amp just by ear. All amps should come with a recommended way to adjust their power. Mosts start the the gain all the way down, then turn your music up 75% of its max volume, then adjust the gain occordingly. After you do that is when you wanna fool with Crossovers, bass boosts and whatever else your amp controls.

You might want to get a 'sub-sonic filter'. If you have a bais in the system, or a lot of really low frequencies that might be what's killing your subs. Normally I would never use one, but if you keep blowing subs then I'd give it a shot. If you've got a multi meter, put it on DC, and check the amp output with the volume on your deck all the way down, you should read 0, if it's more than a quarter of a volt then you need to couple your system differently.<P>HTH<BR>tk1138

all right thanks for the input. ive decided to go with audiobahn 1208Q 's. they have 1500 rms and they look freakin bad buz i plan on doing a fiberglass enclosure and mopunt them isobaric.