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Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 1:04 am
by fowljesse
I ducked out of this discussion, because I felt like we were all losing. However, I did look into it, and found the only relevent information (that wasn't theory) was from Googling "Bonneville + weight affects top speed". The conclusion;
It does.
There could be mountains of evidence on both sides, and we could appoint a judge, and jury. I'm not going to post any more about this. If you convince everyone that it doesn't, that's fine by me.
:shrug:

Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 9:03 am
by Ryan
In theory - It only affects it via the rolling friction of the vehicle.

In reality - There are so many variables its nearly impossible to list and account for them all, so there is lots of factors that could possibly affect what you have all experienced. Heck, wind direction, humidity, temperature, altitude, and time of day, where your excess weight was located (lowering the vehicle would reduce the drag, maybe even enough to have gains), may all very well have calculable effects....

Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 11:29 am
by wytbishop
297kph...oh wait...that was the RC51...nevermind. My MX-3 is slowwwww.

Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 4:45 pm
by Mooneggs
Nd4SpdSe wrote:I hope you see what I'm trying to explain, but I think this may be a problem for Mythbusters ;)
this is the best solution I have seen in this whole thread haha

keep debating gentlemen... the sky's the limit :mrgreen:

Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 7:50 pm
by fowljesse
wytbishop wrote:297kph...oh wait...that was the RC51...nevermind. My MX-3 is slowwwww.
Not with your new gearing, right?

Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 5th, 2008, 8:16 pm
by wytbishop
no that was with stock front and -1 on the back. The way it is now, top speed is around 250 - 260kph. But I have a hard time keeping the front wheel in touch with the pavement.

Re: top speeds..

Posted: December 9th, 2008, 5:42 pm
by 93mx-3boy
i was reading this awile ago and i thought i would give it a try and it is posable i own a stock 93 v6 gs the only thing i have is a cold air intake (don't think it will make a huge differnce) and i hit 142...

Re: top speeds..

Posted: January 3rd, 2009, 12:35 am
by Nd4SpdSe
I Win! :mrgreen:

Also, the g/f got me checking out the Veyron's official site, and they seem to comfirm it
http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron-16.4/t ... cture.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A super sports car like the Veyron 16.4 needs to be light in order to reach top speeds
The Veyron’s high velocity is due to the perfect combination of engine technology, consistent lightweight construction

Re: top speeds..

Posted: January 4th, 2009, 5:33 pm
by mx3boyze
Nd4SpdSe wrote:I Win! :mrgreen:

Also, the g/f got me checking out the Veyron's official site, and they seem to comfirm it
http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron-16.4/t ... cture.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A super sports car like the Veyron 16.4 needs to be light in order to reach top speeds
The Veyron’s high velocity is due to the perfect combination of engine technology, consistent lightweight construction
To me it would make sense this way as well. That was a good debate though. I enjoyed reading it.

Re: top speeds..

Posted: January 4th, 2009, 5:45 pm
by Ryan
When you're talking excessive speeds, like 400kmph, then every little bit starts to count. Not only do you need the acceleration in order to reach that 400 within any reasonable distance, but when you're working against that massive ammount of resistance, you need to lighten the car in order to remove as much rolling resistance as possible, because you need to focus all of your power on the air.

Lets think about downforce while we're here, too. Thats a way of increasing thge force between the car and the pavement while moving fast, in order to increase stability without hurting acceleration as much as pouring concrete in the trunk would.