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Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 4th, 2012, 2:25 pm
by mazdamx3bds
I agree with the points that you guys have made, that is why I am interested in how well the AEM FIC works on his setup so that I can consider it instead of going standalone.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 4th, 2012, 4:14 pm
by youdirtyfox
Im all about driveability, reliability and flexability with this tubro install so hopefully the AEM will give me all three, shame it doesn't do boost control but hey you can't have everything.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 5th, 2012, 2:26 pm
by youdirtyfox
Well s--- was going great guns till I discovered my turbo has a crack right through the exhaust housing into the penny valve , so know I got to reconsider my options. As the 323 mani has a slight crack in it too it might be worth me going custom weld your own mani like RS_OBD'oh_2 with a T25 flange on it as they are a very common turbo over here meaning I can step upto to the T28 later on.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 5th, 2012, 7:07 pm
by mx3matt
youdirtyfox wrote: As the 323 mani has a slight crack in it too it might be worth me going custom weld your own mani like RS_OBD'oh_2 with a T25 flange on it as they are a very common turbo over here meaning I can step upto to the T28 later on.

i would say this is the route to go....

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 5th, 2012, 9:43 pm
by mazdamx3bds
The IHI-VJ11 is a fairly common turbo though so I shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement at a local junkyard or on Ebay, they came on the 89-92 Mazda MX-6 and Ford Probe.

If you are going to a new manifold, I would recommend that you go to the T28 turbo directly instead of the T25 which is a small turbo.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 6th, 2012, 12:59 am
by youdirtyfox
Im thinking new mani now as getting hold of any parts for a VJ in the UK is a ball ache, not the case with a T28 which I agree is the one to go for straight away.

Have emailed JGS to find out about shipping to UK for there DIY mani kit, no reply as of yet.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 6th, 2012, 1:33 pm
by youdirtyfox
Still no reply so....

I may have found a way round it to keep my 323 manifold and use a T28 at the same time, tbh I really think that mani. is too rare to waste you cant beat a cast one as stainless is so prone to cracking.

The solution could be a adaptor flange as I happen to have a T25 gasket lying around I thought I would test my theory against the VJ gasket on the bottom. It should work as long as its shorter than this Im hoping it wont sit the turbo too far down. Have a 8mm steell T25 laser cut flange coming now and will have a go at machine up from billet steel or use some tube to make the adaptor.

Hope this works then I will only have to fork out for a turbo

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Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 6th, 2012, 2:38 pm
by mazdamx3bds
I have seen some people cut off the studs off the existing GTX manifold and then weld the adapter plate directly onto the bottom, however I think you need a good welder to ensure that this is done properly.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 6th, 2012, 3:00 pm
by youdirtyfox
Yeah seen that done a few times takes a skilled welder, preheating/cooling and the right wire and even then I think it could be a bit hit and miss?!
Think I;ll take the safer bolt on option. :)

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 6th, 2012, 3:01 pm
by Mooneggs
youdirtyfox wrote:Im all about driveability, reliability and flexability with this tubro install so hopefully the AEM will give me all three, shame it doesn't do boost control but hey you can't have everything.

LOL it's funny hearing you say you are concerned about driveability... :P Just giving you a hard time of course :freak:... looking forward to how this turbo project turns out!

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 6th, 2012, 3:29 pm
by youdirtyfox
Haha yeah if only ever road was as smooth as glass :crying: :lol: its cool I meant limiting wheel spin with a nice smooth torque curve etc etc. I think im the only one this stupid to get as low as I have, might have to raise her up a touch for some speed, though I wanna take her on track when boosted 8)

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 7th, 2012, 3:45 am
by youdirtyfox
Ok so been doing some window shopping/research into what turbo to buy and although the T28 is readily available its quite expensive right now for me where as a Garrett T25 from either a Saab 9000 or a Nissan 200sx is cheap at the moment, like 50-60 pounds! ($100)

I know its quite a small turbo but hey its a Garrett and I'll be able to hybrid it later on with a T3 and it's gonna makes boost so who cares right?! :lol:

I have a steel IHI VJ flange coming now from US so I can start work on the adaptor very soon :D

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 8th, 2012, 10:27 am
by mazdamx3bds
I would advise that you start with the T28 instead of the T25 you mentioned, you will quickly realize what I am talking about regarding the turbo too small when it runs out of power well before redline. I am speaking from experience having started my setup with a VJ-14 off the 323 GTX, please start with the correct size one time.

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 8th, 2012, 12:47 pm
by youdirtyfox
Yes im not walking into blind and tbh I dont mind a nice kick in the midrange with some real early spool up, makes it nice and driveable then.

Like I said once you own a Garrett its easy to get hybrid parts or exchange turbos and for ref. Turbine housing A/R on a 200sx T25 is .64 and compressor housing .48

If a T25 is good enough for BBR its good enough for me :D

Re: Sam's 1.6 MX-3- LT Turbo project

Posted: July 10th, 2012, 4:49 pm
by mazdamx3bds
Good luck with the project, hope you get it up and running soon. Making a couple changes and then I am going for 18-20psi, hopefully everything holds up. :lol: