Posted: January 5th, 2007, 2:48 pm
OMG.Dali wrote: oh and nothing showed up yet.
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----- Original Message -----
From: PAKFEIFER TUNING CANADA
To: abe joesph ; Michael>>>Urban Import ; sales.dynamiccycles@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Turbo Kits Mx-3
Abe,
I don't think in any of my emails to you, I directly called you a fraud. Yes, I contacted the fraud department over in the criminal investigation unit at Durham police; afterall, this is a complaint over a financial dispute and not homicide.
The Officer's name is Sergeant Penny, District 2 Durham. 919-560-4440 * 225. Let him know your name and my name and I'm sure he will recognize the complaint.
Your emails are far too apart and infrequent. This buy has lasted over a year and you have had plenty of time to bring issues up front or concerns to my attention. You have shown a lack of commitment to this contract.
The report at this point is to have reassurance on my part. I have remained behind you on the forum (http://www.mx-3.com) and have warned you on several different occasions of the situation's gravity. This contract is long over due even by your standards. You provided me with expected dates in the past and none were ever upheld.
I have been more than willing to help you out.
How would you handle the situation if you were in my shoes? $XX,000 US in the hole and nothing to show for it? I don't think you would hesitate to call officials for some help..
I expect you to be timely in your emails from now to the end of this buy.
I appreciate you taking the time to detail all your expenses below, but that shows me nothing. You can write down anything at this point, but unless you provide me with goods, all it is, is more of the same.
I ask that instead of drop shipping any of the orders, that you send everything to me. I will deal with the additional cost of shipping them back to the US guys and the International shipments.
I have been more than reasonable, so don't act as if you have been victimized by others. Be mature enough to admit to your mistakes and handle them accordingly.
Regards,
Oscar Devesa
Canada: http://www.pakfeifercanada.com
U.S.A: http://www.pakfeifertuning.com
----- Original Message -----
From: abe joesph
To: PAKFEIFER TUNING CANADA
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Turbo Kits Mx-3
OK, I try to answer emails as soon as possible!!! I have alot of stuff on my plate right now that i have to take care of. Im not trying to come off as being rude! I have other people shopping for me, for the remander of the parts in the bulk buy. The prices i gave you on the turbos went up from the turbo distibutor. Just alone 5 turbos are a $4000 PO. Not including the Other 3 Turbos purchased. Manufacturering the Pipes were close to $7000 USD alone. BOV's for the remander 6 is going $972 not including the 3 purchased previously. The remander 9 cores asked in this project i roughly estimate to cost $1200 USD ( not including the one purchased for Travis). So Far that leaves us with Tbolt clamps to purchase, hose, oil lines, drain lines, fittings, 38mm wastegates and FANS!!!
Each kits requires x amount of Hose and Clamps:
-Coupler Hose
2.25" (6 ) = $6 x 6 x 9 = $324
2.5" (5) = $6 x 5 x 9 = $270
2.5"-2.25" (1) = $17.50 x 9 = $157.50
-Tbolt clamps
2.25" (13) =$3.75 x 13 x 9 = $438.75
2.5" (11) =$3.75 x 11 x 9 = $371.25
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Total of Hose and clamps alone cost $1561.50 USD pricing from http://www.atpturbo.com .
Now this leaves us with Oil lines, 38mm wastegates, and Fans!
Oil Supply:
Feed lines: $34 x 9 = $306
Drain lines: $8 x 9 =$74
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Total for Oil Supply: $380 USD pricing from http://www.atpturbo.com .
Now this leaves us with 6 38mm wastegates:
Still Shopping for best price ...best price so far $74 USD for each not including shipping: $74 x 6 = $444 USD .
Now this leaves us with Slim line fans!!
Still shopping for the best price at this point. Best price found so far $55 per fan : $55 x 18 = $990 for fans!
Take in consideration international shipping cost, local shipping cost, customs fees, broker fees, and shipping to Canada which is also considered international (not helping shipping rates)
All im trying to get at is im trying to break even on this whole ordeal, me and others are shopping for the best prices now. I would say its safe to say i need a little more time to shop. I also have invoices to provide when everything is bought. I would also be more than glad to present this to the investigator in District 2 Durham Police Department. Please provide me with his contact information. To call me a fraud, i think thats an inccorrect word to use at this point. So when this is presented to the detectives they will tell that you have no case.
Have a nice day
Abe
werd and thats IF he is really filling the orders and remember, Oscar gets the parts first, if hes tryin to pass off cheap shiz Oscar will see itDali wrote:what a little f---ing prick, to come off like he has done wrong. the only reason he is doing anything now is due to the police being involved and im sure he is getting scared that someone would be making a trip his way soon to deal with this one on one. now trying to make it seem that its going to cost more that he told us is yoo bad for him, i seriously hope he does not think we are paying him any more money. another thing to concern me know is what crappy a-- parts is he going to fill the rest of the order with to save himself some cash. i really dont care how full his plate is at this point, i dont think anything in his life is more important that us sueing him over something he said would be done a year ago. this post has everything agreed to on it, all specifics etc. im sure anyone that would read this topic and the other one would go with us in a instant. its caled growing up and admitting youre wrong, he should try it. taking offence to being called a fraud when he was not, its just childish, as far as im concerned he was this when the products were not delivered when he said. i will be so glad when this is over and will never have to deal with this kid again.
EZ_4_FUN wrote:HE emailed me again, with some more personal attacks.
I'm not going to engage in a wordy feud with him, rather let him have said whatever he desires. Im not a lawyer, arguing is up to them.
My interest is in seeing the goods.
This is going to take some time and I have no other recourse but to wait at this point.
QTF! I was going to say exactly that. If he procrastinated on ordering the parts, and their cost went up, that's his problem, not the clients.slimmyslim1420 wrote:Regardless if the prices went up he was supposed to have purchased the parts a while back when he recieved the last part of the payment. Therefore I believe whatever price difference there is, is his problem, not ours or yours, and I believe you should let him know that. The fact that he probably blew the money on whatever he did and dosen't have enough now to finish the purchase is also not our problem.