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Posted: January 20th, 2006, 10:03 am
by lakersfan1
Slammed6 wrote:
If you go past 7000 RPM at high speed, that idiotic.
Fine. I'm an idiot. But then you're a pansy.

Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 4:50 pm
by slimmyslim1420
I had my ze with LSD mx-6 tranny to 8000 rpm and I was still making plenty of power this was in second gear with 6 bad plugs and shot wires. When I had my 1.8 I hit 130 on the interstate at 5500rpm with someone else in the car, so I don't think 9 mph would add 1500rpm.
just wanted to add, with the 1.8 I had 3 bad piston rings. I used about a quart and a half of oil a week.
Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 7:28 pm
by FlyVFR
slimmyslim1420 wrote:I had my ze with LSD mx-6 tranny to 8000 rpm and I was still making plenty of power this was in second gear with 6 bad plugs and shot wires. When I had my 1.8 I hit 130 on the interstate at 5500rpm with someone else in the car, so I don't think 9 mph would add 1500rpm.
just wanted to add, with the 1.8 I had 3 bad piston rings. I used about a quart and a half of oil a week.
LMAO.....
Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 7:55 pm
by Gro Harlem
as pretty much proven already by previous replies.
The probe would be "faster" in terms of top-speed because of its taller wheel/tire combo.
The MX would accelerate quicker b/c of its lighter weight & shorter overall gearing (in combination with the smaller wheel/tire combo).
Overall the MX3 pwnz the PGT, MX6 LS, etc b/c:
1: In stock form it is at LEAST 200 lbs lighter (later model PGT/MX6 weigh drastically more than earlier models).
2: It has a quicker-ratio euro-spec steering rack, shorter wheelbase & similar track width...thus making its platform a superior handler from the factory w/more potential
3: It looks better

Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 12:55 pm
by den
I know this thread is more than a month old but I just wanna add something. Why you guys weren't mentioning the wind resistance... I think that has a major effect on a car's speed.
The question is which of the 2 cars has better aerodynamics? MX3 OR PGT?
(IMO mx3 would be faster)
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 4:12 pm
by Slammed6
which has the taller gearing, auto or manual?
The automatics are geared way higher....approximately 170-180 MPH or more depending on the year.
Fine. I'm an idiot. But then you're a pansy
What was that for?? Whatever u wanna say, its one thing to go to 7500 RPM in 1st gear, cause you are there for a split second, as opposed to going from 7000-7500 RPM in 5th gear where it probably takes you 30 seconds. Thats a big difference as far as stress on the motor.
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 4:39 pm
by wepeo
Gro Harlem wrote:as pretty much proven already by previous replies.
The probe would be "faster" in terms of top-speed because of its taller wheel/tire combo.
The MX would accelerate quicker b/c of its lighter weight & shorter overall gearing (in combination with the smaller wheel/tire combo).
Overall the MX3 pwnz the PGT, MX6 LS, etc b/c:
1: In stock form it is at LEAST 200 lbs lighter (later model PGT/MX6 weigh drastically more than earlier models).
2: It has a quicker-ratio euro-spec steering rack, shorter wheelbase & similar track width...thus making its platform a superior handler from the factory w/more potential
3: It looks better

here here
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 4:47 pm
by kiwi_MX3
Hang on a minute,
Ship the probe down here and let me have a go at it.
Id whip its a-- and send it back a whipped and beaten
broken car.......
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 4:48 pm
by ghandi1492
what are the drag coefficients for each...
isnt the mx-3 at 0.32 ??
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 5:30 pm
by Slammed6
I found the Probe at .31 and the MX-3 at .33 for drag coefficients
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 7:51 pm
by Aston Wards
kiwi_MX3 wrote:Hang on a minute,
Ship the probe down here and let me have a go at it.
Id whip its a-- and send it back a whipped and beaten
broken car.......

We actually have Probes here, it's the god-awful car your hair-dresser probably drives!

Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 9:12 pm
by kiwi_MX3
Aston Wards wrote:kiwi_MX3 wrote:Hang on a minute,
Ship the probe down here and let me have a go at it.
Id whip its a-- and send it back a whipped and beaten
broken car.......

We actually have Probes here, it's the god-awful car your hair-dresser probably drives!

Actully i hav quite a soft spot for the shape of the probe and thats
about it really. and no my hair dresser drives a toyota van.
Posted: March 2nd, 2006, 11:36 pm
by Aston Wards
Posted: March 3rd, 2006, 5:51 pm
by kiwi_MX3
The KJ is "phyicaly" just to large to fit into the MX3 unless you where
to go RWD with it, a KJ into a MX5 would be intersting.
The KLZE is capable of producing 300Hp at the flywheel with
a Cam and intake and exhaust mainafold change, along with a
aftermarket ecu.
Porting the KLZE hurts power, you only need to remove the vavle
guides bump's and tidy the divider, on both intake and exhaust side.
a MSD AL6? ignition system with the KLZE is a must!
Im afraid peaple on the board are just going to have to sit and wait
a few more months before my motor turns a crank in anger since
im now out of a job, and no more acess to a machineshop as such.
And i cannot rent out my place in the state thats it is in sorry i think
paint and wallpaper and yea a wall or two might be nice!
Personally i can't wait for the Familia to fry those hondas at the nightwars
the power to weight is going to be Evil to say the least along with a host
of mods to the syspenion system. gearbox and drive shafts, there are a
lot of little things that add up in the long run.
Posted: March 4th, 2006, 12:29 am
by Aston Wards
No mate, you've got the KJ (miller cycle 2.3) confused with the engine from the 929/Sentia, the KJ is the same block as the K8 etc, similar dimensions except of course the height....
so you didn't keep your job eh? bummer
no access to a machine shop...., double-bummer!