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Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 23rd, 2008, 4:19 pm
by marcdh
Excellent, someone finally bought them :) Let us know of course how they hold up on the track. I'm all for blowing lots of money on MX3s :D I'll have spent £2000 easy on my project car before I'm done, but most of my friends spend three times that amount on fiat puntos, 1litre micras and the like. So yea they're old cars, but I'm happy spending half the price of a crap 1litre hatch back to bring an mx3 to excellent condition.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 24th, 2008, 8:08 pm
by projectmx
i think i'm up around 9 grand in the last two years :) i was looking into that ast but i absouletely need the camber adjustment in the rear let me know how the fitment goes

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 24th, 2008, 9:46 pm
by Whisper
So I got a response from Vorshlag. Seems they might be able to provide adjuster extensions, so that I can use the camber plates in the front, and for the rear I might just cut the bushings shorter, and then I'll have enough clearance to tighten the nut. So overall it seems like it might be doable for both front and rear. Will post info when I actually do it.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 1:47 am
by Whisper
Ok, finally here's the proper performance review.

Today I went to the IRDC lapping day at Bremerton and got to test the suspension at full. And I must say it was superb. Friday I actually took the car to Speedware and they corner-balanced it. So today I just played around with different softness settings, which did seem to make some difference. And that's nice. The track surface was rough and bumpy, but the car stayed planted and handled very predictably. Understeer was minimal, and overall it felt solid, crisp, and responsive. My friend rode along for a couple of sessions (he drives an MR2) and he seemed quite impressed.

ASTs were definitely superior to the shock/spring combo I had before. Impressive.

Keep in mind, though, I haven't experienced many different suspensions, so this is based strictly on what I got now vs. what I had.

I'll post vids in the Racing forum later.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 2:54 am
by fowljesse
Did you do the mentioned balance formula?

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 3:45 am
by Whisper
No. I let Speedware do the corner weighting with proper scales and proper driver weight in the seat.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 11:44 am
by wytbishop
Hey Whisper,

Have you done all the bushings in the control arms and TTLs, Motor mounts, X-member etc..? If so what did you use and how significant was the result?

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 1:55 pm
by Whisper
Motor mounts are filled, have poly bushings on swaybars, but haven't done the rest. Planning to do bushings some time in the future. Maybe TTLs too. Need to lay off the spending for a bit, though. For now it's all original stock. Bushings are a bit worn, but they hold together.

With what I currently got, I can't really tell if it's better or not, because I've done other upgrades at the same time, so it's hard to figure out what did what.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 4:26 pm
by wytbishop
I like my Eibach/ZX2 combo for height and ride, but it's not stiff enough to autocross. I'm hoping that with poly bushings on everything that it'll tighten the car up enough to make up for a slightly soft spring. I imagine I'll still need to get stiffer springs, but I don't think I'll ever be able to do $2000 like you did.

I look forward to more updates on the performance of your setup.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: March 31st, 2008, 11:15 pm
by Whisper
New bushings won't really reduce body roll, though. They'll make handling crisper, but only springs and swaybars will stiffen up your ride. Eibachs should be fine, unless you want to be competitive. Just get good tires and Whiteline rear swaybar, if you don't have it yet.

You can see how my car behaves with ASTs in the vid I posted in the racing forum.

Re: I got the AST coilovers.

Posted: April 1st, 2008, 9:44 pm
by WhiteFinish
Nice someone get them in the US

In the Netherlands there are about 5 cars that drive them. You could also order some camberplates at AST, some of the guys did

If I had the money I would definitly go for these coilovers... they are great and perform really well on the track.
Probably your all-day ride would be smoother then with lowering springs