Getting my ZE to pass emissions
This is pretty interesting. I'm surprised that I've never heard of this trick in the 7 years I've had my car. But for the first time since I've had my ZE, I didn't get a waiver and my car failed - even though it's in good shape overall. So of course, I'm looking for anything that would help me pass.
Does the engine have a hard time running with the stove fuel added? Any difference at all?
Does the engine have a hard time running with the stove fuel added? Any difference at all?
Hank
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It seemed to run fine. I took it easy when I was driving though. The stove fuel is only 55 octane. Right after I got my sticker I went and filled up with 93 to make sure I didn't have any troubles.
BTW- My friend with a CRX did the same thing the day before me. He has a jspec engine that was failing for Nox. He passed with flying colors using the stove fuel. He used Ozark brand that was available at wal-mart.
BTW- My friend with a CRX did the same thing the day before me. He has a jspec engine that was failing for Nox. He passed with flying colors using the stove fuel. He used Ozark brand that was available at wal-mart.
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Very cool! And my car also failed on the NOx test. I'm going to the Emissions station this Friday, and I think I'll be stopping at Wal-Mart on the way.
I wonder if the Chevron stuff would burn clean enough to let me pass...
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I wonder if the Chevron stuff would burn clean enough to let me pass...
Hank
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Passed!
Well, I just got back from the emissions testing station after taking TSI's advice, and I passed with no problem. It wasn't NOx that I failed last time, because in Maryland they don't test for that. So, it had to be CO or Hydrocarbons that I failed before - I can't remember and I can't find my printout from the last test.
Anyway, many thanks to TSI for the advice.![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Anyway, many thanks to TSI for the advice.
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Hank
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You know, I and my mechanic are skeptical about it, but since my e-test is monday, and you guys are giving it the ok, i think i'm gonna try it...so i gallon for 1/3 tank?
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Yup 1 gallon to ~4 gallons. That's as much as I dared. I'm sure the more you add the better the emissions clean up. Then I worry what damage could happen to the engine though.
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Well i dropped off the car this morning for the E-test, put a gallon of Coleman Camp Fuel with a little over 1/3 tank of Sonoco 94. We'll see in about 6 hours, the test is at 3pm
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Did you drive the car for a while on the Coleman before dropping it off? I've heard as much as a full gallon can be held in the fuel lines.Nd4SpdSe wrote:Well i dropped off the car this morning for the E-test, put a gallon of Coleman Camp Fuel with a little over 1/3 tank of Sonoco 94. We'll see in about 6 hours, the test is at 3pm
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Actually i didnt drive her, i just put it in a left, i slept in about 40min so i was running late. But the good news is that i just got a call and she passed!!! I'll post the numbers when i get home, but theses are the current weather conditions
FEELS LIKE -18°C
WIND W 19 km/h
GUSTS 28 km/h
RELATIVE HUMIDITY 85%
DEWPOINT -12°C
PRESSURE 103.03 kPa
VISIBILITY 2.4 km
CEILING 1800 ft
575ft above sea level
It's a Millenia KLZE with the 01 cams, PRM CAI, naturally age hollowed out 13yr old cat, 2.5" piping, no resonator, no EGR
FEELS LIKE -18°C
WIND W 19 km/h
GUSTS 28 km/h
RELATIVE HUMIDITY 85%
DEWPOINT -12°C
PRESSURE 103.03 kPa
VISIBILITY 2.4 km
CEILING 1800 ft
575ft above sea level
It's a Millenia KLZE with the 01 cams, PRM CAI, naturally age hollowed out 13yr old cat, 2.5" piping, no resonator, no EGR
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Here's my results, i don't think they tested me as a hod rod, but here's the results;
ASM ~2525rpms (tested at 2209rpms)
Test / KLZE Reading / Jan '05 "Hot-Rod" Limits / Dec '02 K8 Limits
HC ppm / 12 / 68 / 89
CO % / 0.0 / 0.38 / 0.50
NO ppm / 5 / 526 / 684
Curb Idle (Tested at 1082rpms)
Test / KLZE Reading / Jan '05 "Hot-Rod" Limits / Dec '02 K8 Limits
HC ppm / 11 / 200 / 200
CO % / 0.01 / 1.0 / 1.0
ASM ~2525rpms (tested at 2209rpms)
Test / KLZE Reading / Jan '05 "Hot-Rod" Limits / Dec '02 K8 Limits
HC ppm / 12 / 68 / 89
CO % / 0.0 / 0.38 / 0.50
NO ppm / 5 / 526 / 684
Curb Idle (Tested at 1082rpms)
Test / KLZE Reading / Jan '05 "Hot-Rod" Limits / Dec '02 K8 Limits
HC ppm / 11 / 200 / 200
CO % / 0.01 / 1.0 / 1.0
Looks like i got tested as a K8 with even tougher levels from back 2 years ago, thank got i played it safe.Spinkx79 wrote:Wondering why you want to try thisNd4SpdSe wrote: "modified" (hotrod as we call is here in Ontario, CanadA) class?![]()
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Love it when i post last, especially with relevant test information, and the thread dies off...it always happen to me.
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2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
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