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Originally posted by Yoda:
Around here there are about 6 or 7 JDM engine imports in town and they get at least one of the AWD tranny on a KL-ZE in each consignment. Since there is no demand for them they go in the big blue bin. The only difficulty is to wire up the center diff. servo, cutting the floor for the both fuel pumps and wire the the transfer pump so that it is not running continously. Also the AWD on the KL-ZE you will need the ECU and tranny control module.

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Last time i checked there were not AWD trannies for the Klze its an LSD tranny. And you wont need the control module on a manual nor do you need the klze ecu you can use a kl03 ecu and it will work.

Originally posted by Mnemonic:

Originally posted by Yoda:
Around here there are about 6 or 7 JDM engine imports in town and they get at least one of the AWD tranny on a KL-ZE in each consignment. Since there is no demand for them they go in the big blue bin. The only difficulty is to wire up the center diff. servo, cutting the floor for the both fuel pumps and wire the the transfer pump so that it is not running continously. Also the AWD on the KL-ZE you will need the ECU and tranny control module.

Last time i checked there were not AWD trannies for the Klze its an LSD tranny. And you wont need the control module on a manual nor do you need the klze ecu you can use a kl03 ecu and it will work. [/QB][/QUOTE]

I guess you didn't check very hard. Who said anything about the AWD tranny for the K series engine being an MTX. I believe it wasn't me. The Capella station wagon were mostly sold as AWD with the KL-ZE. The same drive train was also sold in europe in the Xedo6 but with a -DE. Also Mazda took a turbo KL AWD Capella sedan to the Geneva and Frankfurt auto shows as a concept car back about 4 years ago.

Thats pretty sweet that the ZE comes in AWD.

omg...this thread is so full of misinformation i'm not even going to begin to comment.

Originally posted by Gro Harlem:
omg...this thread is so full of misinformation i'm not even going to begin to comment.

C'mon, you're dying to tell us....

Originally posted by Gro Harlem:
omg...this thread is so full of misinformation i'm not even going to begin to comment.

Seems like this kind of thing has been going on alot lately. I figured let it run wild and see just how stupid a thread could get.

Some may say this is a stupid thread but for anybody who is in the climate I am, ans AWD MX-3 GS is a dream. I think it'd be great.

Thanks to all that offered information about this change, and since I am considering the KLZE and there is a chance that it has AWD ability, I will give it another look.

Happy Holidays to y'all.

if you want AWD, buy a WRX... you'd probably save some money if you bought a used WRX instead of converting an MX3 to AWD.

If you do decide to go ZE AWD, good luck... no.. BEST of luck and get your checkbook ready.

Originally posted by Gro Harlem:
omg...this thread is so full of misinformation i'm not even going to begin to comment.

There might be A lot of misinformation in this thread, but the information provided by Yoda (Vaughn) is probably as good as can get. No one and I mean no, on here has done as much research into mazda and related models. Hell the man was one of the pioneers of the DE/ZE swap.

Originally posted by mxer4eva:

Originally posted by Gro Harlem:
omg...this thread is so full of misinformation i'm not even going to begin to comment.

There might be A lot of misinformation in this thread, but the information provided by Yoda (Vaughn) is probably as good as can get. No one and I mean no, on here has done as much research into mazda and related models. Hell the man was one of the pioneers of the DE/ZE swap.

yah i believe yoda over the rest as it was his info i used to get the swap done in australia.

i didn't have a problem with what vaughn posted. I mainly was laughing at "klze-sized". Obviously you've never seen a JE removed from the 929...they are frickin enormous powertrains.

As for converting to AWD, its been discussed at least once before. The mx3 is not on the same chassis, it is on the same unibody as the BG familia/323/protege. The gas tank and most other stuff does bolt up but the AWD unibody is different as it allows room for the driveshaft and larger rear suspension beam (the fuel tank is also much smaller). Cutting will be required to get any of that to fit the mx3 as the floorpan is in the way in a few places. It isn't as easy as it sounds and IMVHO it isn't worth it.

It would be easier to buy an AWD protege and somehow bolt or weld the MX3 body to it than to swap the AWD suspension & drivetrain to an MX3 unibody.

I'm far from being a mechanic. Maybe I should have said the same "type" of configuration, mounting whatever. In fact, I was using his words.

I had considered fixing up this car to keep it awhile and thought it was possible. I've decided against that now; too much work.

I'm looking at a VW R32. I drove one of the VW dealer's demos in Germany and I was impressed by its overall performance. Since I don't like turbos, NOS, superchargers, or the sort; it's perfect. The fact looking very conservative also has its perks.

In any case fellas, I'm looking at selling the MX-3 next year some time. If you are interested, it needs some very light body work but is for all intensive purposes perfect after that. It is completely stock and I'd estimate it to have roughly 112K miles on it next summer.

It's a 92 GS in Elegant Beige metallic. It runs so well I often have people swear it's a newer car and only MX-3 aficianados know that's the color Mazda canceled the first year. It's a rare find indeed. Nothing has been done to it, imagine the possibilities. Bidding will start at $2K (I'll let it go for $3.5K now), and you can come pick it up. Keep your eyes here and on ebay. I live in Montana so you guys from Canada might want to keep your eyes open for it as well.

The MS6 also has a new direct injection system that would require a whole list of parts to be installed along with the 2.3 . Even if the 2.3 did bolt on it would make the swap even more difficult and expensive trying to make the injection system work.

that said the probes have a LOT more room under the hood than the MX-3.