New steering wheel ain't friendly
New steering wheel ain't friendly
So, guys, I've got this new steering wheel:
http://www.roadfly.com/new-cars/wp-cont ... -wheel.jpg
How do i get it's horn working? It's everything okay with the horn, i attach it where it should be, but nothing happens..
http://www.roadfly.com/new-cars/wp-cont ... -wheel.jpg
How do i get it's horn working? It's everything okay with the horn, i attach it where it should be, but nothing happens..
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Depends on what year your MX is. if it is a 94+ it may be a little easier to get it working. the wheel will bolt right on. but you may have to splice a couple of wires, for the airbag and horn. there are aftermarket kits you can buy to utilize the radio controls with aftermarket deck too.
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Really? I've never heard about those, maybe you could give me a link or something?Josh wrote:Depends on what year your MX is. if it is a 94+ it may be a little easier to get it working. the wheel will bolt right on. but you may have to splice a couple of wires, for the airbag and horn. there are aftermarket kits you can buy to utilize the radio controls with aftermarket deck too.
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
What year is your MX-3, and do you have cruise control?
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
93. And I don't have CCMrMazda92 wrote:What year is your MX-3, and do you have cruise control?
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
It depends on the brand and model of your deck. Pioneer has a universal switch that works with most of their decks, as well as a couple of other manufactures.
Josh
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05' MS RX-8 - Parted out and Sold :'(
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Well my pioneer is pretty old it's DEH-343R. How do i find if it's compatible?
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Well there's several issues with the horn, cruise and radio controls: the "clock spring"
There's the black ring with 3 sets of circuits with a 3-pin connector sticking out of it, that's where the signals for the cruise and horn go though.
- 1 is for the power of the horn, ground is done through the steering column.
- The other 2 are power and ground for the cruise control controls.
The cruise, as I would assume the stereo as well, use what's called a MUX system, which is where each button has a set resistance, and the recieving unit (radio or cruise control module) recognizes the resistance and knows what command is associated with it. Although it's irrelevant since you don't have cruise, there's a few ways to deal with those controls.
You can relocate then as I had done:
or making your own to replace steering wheel controls for the cruise. Nothing complicated, 2 buttons, 2 resistors and some wires. You can put them anywhere, but here's an example:
The steering wheel controls for the audio work on the same principle. For using the factory controls on an aftermarket deck, which I've done myself on the Xterra, is using the kit from PAC. They have 2 models depending on the manufacturer of the deck, but for Pioneer you need SWI-PS, exactly what I used.
If your Pioneer supports it, it would use a jack on the back. Some companies have a single wire in the harness as opposed to a dedicated jack. My old 7800 and my current 980 in the Xterra both have this jack.
I'm not sure what the Mx-3 is equipped for passing the circuit in a non-cruise Mx3, but you may need to get and use the clock spring from a cruise Mx-3 since it has 3 seperate paths while if your car only had a horn, it might have it's own 1-path ring. Use the one path for horn, and use the other 2 for your radio controls instead of cruise. Pass those 2 through the ring and into the PAC unit. Could/should be pretty easy.
There's the black ring with 3 sets of circuits with a 3-pin connector sticking out of it, that's where the signals for the cruise and horn go though.
- 1 is for the power of the horn, ground is done through the steering column.
- The other 2 are power and ground for the cruise control controls.
The cruise, as I would assume the stereo as well, use what's called a MUX system, which is where each button has a set resistance, and the recieving unit (radio or cruise control module) recognizes the resistance and knows what command is associated with it. Although it's irrelevant since you don't have cruise, there's a few ways to deal with those controls.
You can relocate then as I had done:
or making your own to replace steering wheel controls for the cruise. Nothing complicated, 2 buttons, 2 resistors and some wires. You can put them anywhere, but here's an example:
The steering wheel controls for the audio work on the same principle. For using the factory controls on an aftermarket deck, which I've done myself on the Xterra, is using the kit from PAC. They have 2 models depending on the manufacturer of the deck, but for Pioneer you need SWI-PS, exactly what I used.
If your Pioneer supports it, it would use a jack on the back. Some companies have a single wire in the harness as opposed to a dedicated jack. My old 7800 and my current 980 in the Xterra both have this jack.
I'm not sure what the Mx-3 is equipped for passing the circuit in a non-cruise Mx3, but you may need to get and use the clock spring from a cruise Mx-3 since it has 3 seperate paths while if your car only had a horn, it might have it's own 1-path ring. Use the one path for horn, and use the other 2 for your radio controls instead of cruise. Pass those 2 through the ring and into the PAC unit. Could/should be pretty easy.
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Okay, there's a problem, I won't get a clockspring... Is there a way to bypass that, and get only the horn working?
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
To use the horn on the wheel, unless you want a wire wrapping around the column as you turn the wheel...
Or you mount a horn button elsewhere in the car that's not on the wheel...
Or you mount a horn button elsewhere in the car that's not on the wheel...
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2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
I would do this.Nd4SpdSe wrote:Or you mount a horn button elsewhere in the car that's not on the wheel...
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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Yeah i tried a LOOOOOONG wire from the horn button to the dog gone steering column with NO luck. After 20 or so turns it would be wrapped on something and come undone from how I had it rigged up.
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Why not? I would assume it would be the same as with putting on an aftermarket wheel with a hub, I had to cut off the connector off the clockspring to fit the hub on the column, otherwise it was in the way. I had cut just the plastic off the connector and kept the pins to make my own connection to my horn button on my aftermarket wheel.tdesws wrote:Okay, there's a problem, I won't get a clockspring...
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2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
Its not a big deal. Go to the wrecker and pull one from a Mazda. A long wire for the horn is not a big deal either. I have done it and had no issues.
Josh
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94' GS - KLZE DD (work log - viewtopic.php?uid=2713&f=46&t=79063&start=0 )
05' MS RX-8 - Parted out and Sold :'(
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94' GS - KLZE DD (work log - viewtopic.php?uid=2713&f=46&t=79063&start=0 )
05' MS RX-8 - Parted out and Sold :'(
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Re: New steering wheel ain't friendly
I'm kinda out of money these days, and somehow they want a lot of money for them :/ I thought maybe it's possible to cut the plastic from old steering wheel, which connects with that thing which reacted when i pressed the horn button?Josh wrote:Its not a big deal. Go to the wrecker and pull one from a Mazda. A long wire for the horn is not a big deal either. I have done it and had no issues.
I guess i wrote a not understandable sentence :O