94 Mazda MX - 3 GS vs 97 Honda Prelude TypeS

[MrMazda92]

200 HP K8 would be fun... It'd cost more than a KL swap, but it's definitely not impossible.

Whoever coined "No replacement for displacement" should swing from a rope. Bigger isn't always better, it just changes the game. If you weren't legally allowed to EVER swap engines beyond stock options, there would be multiple 200+ hp K8s, no turbo or N2O required. The fact is, there's a simpler/cheaper way to reach those numbers, so nobody really tried.

[iRobsta]

200 HP K8 would be fun... It'd cost more than a KL swap, but it's definitely not impossible.

Whoever coined "No replacement for displacement" should swing from a rope. Bigger isn't always better, it just changes the game. If you weren't legally allowed to EVER swap engines beyond stock options, there would be multiple 200+ hp K8s, no turbo or N2O required. The fact is, there's a simpler/cheaper way to reach those numbers, so nobody really tried.

What do you mean simpler way to reach those numbers that no bondy has tried, cranking the k8 to 200+ hp?

On a side note, what do you guys say to your insurance about swapping engines? Mine isn't the most lineant (bel air direct).

[MrMazda92]

My meaning was, 200 HP will be simplest(and cheapest) attained by swapping the engine. It's POSSIBLE with a K8, but it will cost money, as well as time.

[Josh]

It would cost no more than a turbo kit. N/A would take thousands, Turbo would cost about as much as most pay for their ZE's... assuming you build the kit yourself. there are a couple of guys who have turbo'd the K8 that I know of and probably somewhere in the 200 whp range I would say if not more. But from what I remember they kept blowing motors, but a lot of that has to do with poor tuning.

[mikeinaus]

the simple fact is to get any kind of modest NA power from the k8, you need to rip it apart and build it from the ground up. no one i know have has done this as its expensive + the gains are minimal compared to a cheap de/ze swap. simply throwing a chip on the k8 or even a custom tune wont yield you much of an improvement. this topic is dumb. you clearly can barely drive and you want to race your friend who can barely drive, in an illegal way. dont swap the engine, keep the car stock and learn to drive, then look into autox in the future when your ready. there is massive amounts of information on this site about how to go faster, search for it.

[BornSticky]

the prelude has 195 hp and 156 ft lbs torque and from wheat it sounds like it s--- bagged
ze has 199 hp and 168 ft lbs of torque - about 500 lbs of weight a ze would kick its a--! just make sure its the right ze cause there is another one curve neck whick is only 168 hp i beleive which i think would still keep up with the lude

+1 don't race your clutch and gear box doesn't deserve it or the person you rear end and kill on the highway

[MrMazda92]

It would cost no more than a turbo kit.

Well yeah, but displacement means a lot less when you're going FI.

[Juans_93_MX3]

Before you even think of a KLZE swap, make sure you MX3 is safe.

Have the inner/outer tie-rods checked. Aswell as the outer ball joints, engine mounts and CV axels. Make sure you can get alignments, that your tires are good and that nothing is shaking like crazy when going +75mph

Than when you start thinking of a KLZE, you might want to get some extra money to replace the water pump, belt, piston rings, head gaskets, head bolts, valve cover gaskets.
Bascially, you want to do the swap right and make sure your getting good compression and very minimal oil loss.

Aftermarket exhausts can be a pain because the headers dont align with the EGR well. You may have to have a custom pipe made for that.