what kind of engine is this?
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
My kf had a k8 head. maybe a millenia or a kfze. I think mine was a kfde or something like that. Engine SUCKED..
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
It looks like a KF mani on a KL head to me, so I think Solo has it right.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
You can always trust the engine code on the back that says KL426420. That seems like a KL block for sure because of this code.
As for the heads and cams and intake, who knows, the pics shown in the second link seem to show KLZE heads. You'd have to see the cams as they make the ZE what it is. Without ZE cams you have a slightly better than usual KLDE....
The IM is definitely not a KL though, like others have said, curved neck KFZE was also my first impression. It may make sense that they went for the curved KFZE IM as it would have the rectangular intake ports and match the heads + fit in the engine bay.
In all honesty though, I'd just get a known KLDE from an MX6/Probe and rebuild or put headers on etc.
As for the heads and cams and intake, who knows, the pics shown in the second link seem to show KLZE heads. You'd have to see the cams as they make the ZE what it is. Without ZE cams you have a slightly better than usual KLDE....
The IM is definitely not a KL though, like others have said, curved neck KFZE was also my first impression. It may make sense that they went for the curved KFZE IM as it would have the rectangular intake ports and match the heads + fit in the engine bay.
In all honesty though, I'd just get a known KLDE from an MX6/Probe and rebuild or put headers on etc.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
How do you guys think the kf IM will run on the kl engine?
Rx8se3p- you would just take a normal DE? There's another engine for sale, but its the same price, just without exhaust and tranny..
Rx8se3p- you would just take a normal DE? There's another engine for sale, but its the same price, just without exhaust and tranny..
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
KF manifold is different in port shape than the KLZE heads.
Unless there are KLDE heads on the engine, or the heads/intake have been poortmatched it's not a real good combination.
Unless there are KLDE heads on the engine, or the heads/intake have been poortmatched it's not a real good combination.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
It'll run with the kf mani, might be abit unstable at idle but with the kf ecu it should be ok
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
What is the kf ecu's number?
And it won't run with the kl31 ecu..? (I've got a offer on a kl31 and kl36 for 200$)
i explained to the guy that it had the wrong IM and he offered my the engine, tranny and full exhaust for 800€ (it was 1150€ before). would you guys buy it for that price?
normally a klze is about 1100€ engine only.
the reason i still consider this is because my tranny just went yesterday. i cant shift down to second gear. :/
And it won't run with the kl31 ecu..? (I've got a offer on a kl31 and kl36 for 200$)
i explained to the guy that it had the wrong IM and he offered my the engine, tranny and full exhaust for 800€ (it was 1150€ before). would you guys buy it for that price?
normally a klze is about 1100€ engine only.
the reason i still consider this is because my tranny just went yesterday. i cant shift down to second gear. :/
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
i gonna buy this engine, a guy in netherland has the curved IM incl fuelrails tb and so on, for only 150€ shipped.
any1 needs a kfze IM?
any1 needs a kfze IM?
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ZE swapped with kl36 ecu and Exedy oem clutch, Fidanza flywheel, 2.5" stainless exhaust, Ebay headers, 8mm sparkplug wires and Denso iridium sparkplugs, Rockspeed CAI, 17x8 wheels, 235/40 Goodyear eagle f1 as, Taroc japan sport discs and pads.
ZE swapped with kl36 ecu and Exedy oem clutch, Fidanza flywheel, 2.5" stainless exhaust, Ebay headers, 8mm sparkplug wires and Denso iridium sparkplugs, Rockspeed CAI, 17x8 wheels, 235/40 Goodyear eagle f1 as, Taroc japan sport discs and pads.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
I would check the heads first.
And also under the valvecover.
If its a ZE is the first thing. And if the ZE has been treated as sh*t isn't worth anything.
And also under the valvecover.
If its a ZE is the first thing. And if the ZE has been treated as sh*t isn't worth anything.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
head code is kl31-1a1.
i will check the cams, when i see him tomorrow.
is there any ways to see if the engine is treated good?
i will check the cams, when i see him tomorrow.
is there any ways to see if the engine is treated good?
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ZE swapped with kl36 ecu and Exedy oem clutch, Fidanza flywheel, 2.5" stainless exhaust, Ebay headers, 8mm sparkplug wires and Denso iridium sparkplugs, Rockspeed CAI, 17x8 wheels, 235/40 Goodyear eagle f1 as, Taroc japan sport discs and pads.
ZE swapped with kl36 ecu and Exedy oem clutch, Fidanza flywheel, 2.5" stainless exhaust, Ebay headers, 8mm sparkplug wires and Denso iridium sparkplugs, Rockspeed CAI, 17x8 wheels, 235/40 Goodyear eagle f1 as, Taroc japan sport discs and pads.
Re: what kind of engine is this?
I would take a healthly DE over a hybrid unknown engine these days.
To see if the engine is treated good, take the valve cover off. If it looks like the silver picture it should be awesome (rebuilt lol), if it looks like the dark one, don't even think about. PRobably a very light golden colour is what you want. Take out a spark plug too to see if they look wet and oily. Dry is what you want!
The lighter the colour of oil, the better your chances in general.
To see if the engine is treated good, take the valve cover off. If it looks like the silver picture it should be awesome (rebuilt lol), if it looks like the dark one, don't even think about. PRobably a very light golden colour is what you want. Take out a spark plug too to see if they look wet and oily. Dry is what you want!
The lighter the colour of oil, the better your chances in general.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
I have 2 sets of heads(DE and ZE) that both look quite shiny.
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Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
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'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
Hey guys.
i picked up the engine yesterday and it looked very nice.
it had the right numbers on the heads and cams and the guy who sold the engine, had been taking good care of his car.
in fact the only reason he sold it, was because he hit a deer.
Btw,
any1 knows if the engine mounts from a 323f ba will fit in a mx3?
if so i'll be very happy, cus then i dont need to take my own out to strenghten them.
i picked up the engine yesterday and it looked very nice.
it had the right numbers on the heads and cams and the guy who sold the engine, had been taking good care of his car.
in fact the only reason he sold it, was because he hit a deer.
Btw,
any1 knows if the engine mounts from a 323f ba will fit in a mx3?
if so i'll be very happy, cus then i dont need to take my own out to strenghten them.
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ZE swapped with kl36 ecu and Exedy oem clutch, Fidanza flywheel, 2.5" stainless exhaust, Ebay headers, 8mm sparkplug wires and Denso iridium sparkplugs, Rockspeed CAI, 17x8 wheels, 235/40 Goodyear eagle f1 as, Taroc japan sport discs and pads.
ZE swapped with kl36 ecu and Exedy oem clutch, Fidanza flywheel, 2.5" stainless exhaust, Ebay headers, 8mm sparkplug wires and Denso iridium sparkplugs, Rockspeed CAI, 17x8 wheels, 235/40 Goodyear eagle f1 as, Taroc japan sport discs and pads.
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
I do not know the answer to the 323 question, although I highly doubt it is a yes. Sorry to be a downer on that front
Although, if you are swapping the engines already, you may as well pull the mounts out!
Although, if you are swapping the engines already, you may as well pull the mounts out!
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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Re: what kind of engine is this?
They probably will fit. The BA platform should be essentially the same as the other 323's (it houses a K series engine) and the K engine's all fit in all the BG/EC platforms so I'd be suprised if they didn't work.
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