KLDE intake on KLZE?

[MazdaMech]

So I am doing alot of research online to figure out this KLZE swap and a big issue that people run in to is the straight neck of the KLZE intake not fitting in the engine bay. Now my question is can I use a KLDE intake with the curved neck without losing much? The reason I ask is because I see alot of people mentioning the MS-8's intake. I found a 1995 Millenia in the junk yard with the curved intake and I can get it for about 30 bucks. I dont want the millenia VRIS to sucker punch the KLZE head and block. I presume since the MS-8 is used more it gives better performance.

What should I do? Get the KLDE intake from the junkyard or look for a MS-8 intake? Since it was cheap I was thinking of getting it anyways as a better alternative to the k8 until I get my hands on a MS-8's intake.

[wagZE]

Get the millenia intake the millenias actually has ze heads so the ports will match up on your ze heads unlike a klde IM (probe/626/mx6), & won't starve the engine for air like the k8 manifold does. $30 is a crazy good price but see if that comes with the tb & tps & iac & everything else you'll need, they charge the most for that stuff like the TB cost me more than the IM did. You may want the throttle bracket & solenoids off it aswell. I have a complete millenia IM with all sensors rails & tb & correct solenoids & brackets. Its in my for sale thread if you want to make an offer I paid $100 for it with everything that it came with.
here is the link:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77672

[davmac]

^ what wagZE said…
I second that you should get all the attached stuff too
I know almost nothing about the MS-8 because it was never offered in North America. Everything I’ve read is that MX3 owners use the Millennia IM – also referred to as KL47 on the KLZE swap. Reason:
- The KL47 IM has square intake ports that match the KLZE heads
- Millenia IM are readily available in North American salvage yards
- KL47 IM has a curved neck fits in the MX3 engine bay with no modification

[Nd4SpdSe]

Indeed, basically the Curved-Neck ZE IM and the regular Millenia Curved-Neck are identical. The VRIS points on both the MS8 and the Millenia should be the same, but can be corrected with a chipped ECU. It won't "sucker punch" the motor in any way, it just won't have the perfect ideal powerband for that intake and motor combo. Before Megasquirt and before ECU chips, we can KL31/36 ECU's with curved necks for many, many years....

And as mentioned, having the VRIS points off a bit is nothing compared to how restrictive the K8 IM is on a KL

[Sleeper6]

Just use the whole Millenia motor, specially if its the 95. Save you a whole lot of $$ and youll only loose a fraction of the performance. Not only that but take what you would spend on the ze and use it to restore the Mill motor with some machine work

[Inodoro Pereyra]

To add to what everyone said, you can also use the intake from the 98+ 626 (KL-G4 engine) that also used ZE heads.

[MazdaMech]

Just use the whole Millenia motor, specially if its the 95. Save you a whole lot of $$ and youll only loose a fraction of the performance. Not only that but take what you would spend on the ze and use it to restore the Mill motor with some machine work

The head is missing and has been rained in

[MrMazda92]

To add to what everyone said, you can also use the intake from the 98+ 626 (KL-G4 engine) that also used ZE heads.

Actually Inodoro, I have to argue that one It'd require port matching, but is definitely a viable alternative with some effort!

[Inodoro Pereyra]

It does? I was under the impression that G4's used ZE heads...

But does it require a lot of port matching? You know pretty much all IM's require it, to some extent...

[MrMazda92]

The g4 is late model 626, so it's got the oval Ports. That's part of why it has good potential ;D

http://www.xtremethings.com/KLG4_Modification.htm

[Inodoro Pereyra]

Hmmm, too bad.
I'll stick with a Milly engine then...
Thanks for the info.

[MrMazda92]

Stock with SLAs though, good head machining and matching the G4 IM, I think it'd be the cheapest if you're going slas

[Inodoro Pereyra]

Yeah. I wonder if the SLA's could be used on the Milly heads...

[Nd4SpdSe]

The KLG4 IM clears the brake booster better than a regular straight neck?

[Ryan]

Just a heads up, SLA's are a b----.

More than you know. Talk to someone who has done them.