turbo and manifold are on coolant lines and water lines

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turbo and manifold are on coolant lines and water lines

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well i have the turbo and manifold on i need to get the oil feed and return line and coolant feed and return.

1) i know i need a 1/8 male british thread adaptor, but to what a male or female and what size? and what size is the adaptor/oil restrictor on the vj14? looks like maybe 3/8?

2) what did you do to tap the oil pan? as the gtx doesnt work... is there a kit or something yuou buy at a hardware store that you just drill a hole. then tighten a nut on the other end or something to seal it?

3)coolant line. im guessing you pick this up at the throttlebody? but which line going to the throttle body or coming off is it? any one explain or have pics?

4) where do you guys run you coolant line return to?

what fuel pump do i buy this week? a walbro 190, FC turbo or FD turbo? and what was involved when you guys installed yours?
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coolant lines are normally 3/8 for most turbos. Can not confirm for the Vj series tho. Check out my worklog for oil drain. And oil fittings
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thanks those pics helped out a ton for the oil return. i guess i can get that fitting at any performance shop.
i couldnt tell from your pics where you picked the coolant up and dropped off. they both look like they go by the filler neck on the rad?

have you gotten your car running yet? your a lot closer than me i think i should be up and going within 2 weeks...
did you keep your stock clutch, or swap it out already? i havent yet figured what clutch i want to get..lol.. hopefully mine will hold or a month or so se its a tiny turbo and just 8 psi. how much boost are you going to be running at first?
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hey
I'm just waiting on a couple of parts to show up. A reducer for my intake to turbo and a spacer for my rear o2 sensor so I don't thro a cel.
My water lines are not done just yet. The best way to do it is to cut into one of the TBody lines and take it to the turbo and then return from the turbo back to the tbody. I think they might be 3/8 lines as well.. I'm not 100% sure just yet. I will be running -6 coolant lines to the turbo tho.
I'll be rocking the stock clutch with low boost until I get moved into my new house. I'm leaning to a Spec clutch 2+ probably 8-10 psi for now.
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RS_OBD'oh_2 wrote:hey
My water lines are not done just yet. The best way to do it is to cut into one of the TBody lines and take it to the turbo and then return from the turbo back to the tbody..
WORST IDEA EVER! you're gonna get heat from the turbo coolant INTO the TB?! :?
not to be an a$$, sorry if i come out that way.
come from the TB to the turbo, to the engine. keep the TB/Intake as cold as possible so the added heat from the turbo doesn't give you higher intake temps so you can use more timing/less knock.
Just a thought.
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It is very common to tap into the tb line. It's been tested and proven many times. From what others have said it will only change your warm up times. I don't believe the intake air is sitting in the tb long enough to get any sort of heat soak/transfer from it.
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Theres a spot on the block for coolant return.

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(thanks smoke for the pic)
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thanks a lot ill look on the block tomorrow for the return, im guessing its just a plug in there now... well it really seems like the rest is just finding a good 4 hours or so to finish it up

ya rs same here stock clutch for a month or so i hope it holds up if yours will with the 16g mine will with the vj-14 plus its got less than 20 000 on it... now im kicking myself in th a-- for not upgrading it when i did it. well it looks like we should be done within a week of eachother. are you using the td05 big 16g? we'll have to post a couple vids when were done to compare setups... i have a vid of my car from 1st to the top of 3rd before doing this to hopefully make a comparison video

thanks a lot to everyone for the help...
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Heh, Im doing this swap this weekend, either Saturday or Sunday. BP + VJ20 into my 94 RS, G series tranny with upgraded ACT Clutch and lightweight Fidanza Flywheel, SS 2.5" mandrel downpipe, MX-6 Turbo injectors. Should run about 12-15 psi without an external gate/boost controller. Boost creep to about 20 psi with open exhaust lol
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Hmmm.. I like that better, shorter distance as well. Is there a pic of the coolant feed on the block that you may be able to provide? I'm a little short on time I'll search for it later if it's not posted.

- I am going to be running the big 16g... hope my tranny will keep up. I've avoided the clutch upgrade so far. I'm pretty sure I'll need to upgrade the tranny and don't want to buy 2 clutches if this tranny won't hold.
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yes that looks a lot shorter... what size of fitting did you need for the block? and i second the pic of the feed if you have it...lol

yeah i def. doubt the stock tranny will hold up... i have a escort gt parts car just down the road i can rape..lol.. but it would suck to get it running and blow the tranny or burn up the clutch... im going to personally avoid boosting 5th hard maybe 4th depends if the clutch starts slipping but in 1st and 2nd it should defintaly grip, id think. so rs for your oil return you just used a fitting from a performance store for a fuel cell? i have to pick that up tomorrow too... same with the 1/8 british to 1/8 normal...lol... im hoping home depot will have one or a performance shop as i imagine thats where ill have to get the 90 -4an...cause i dont have credit cards or paypal so the internet shops are a no go.... the big 16g will be a good turbo my buddies evo3 is at 30 psi with meth on a big 16g

pox:how much was it for the clutch and flywheel?that sounds like a good setup...good luck this weekend...
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I got the clutch/flwheel off a member on clubprotege.com for around $400.

The coolant block fitting Oem mazda part number B660-13-180: $17.36.
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mzdamx3rsdohc wrote:rs for your oil return you just used a fitting from a performance store for a fuel cell
Ya.. If you call any parts store and ask for a -10 bulkhead with teflon washers and the -10 nut, you will have all you need.
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well i have my intercooler mounted and pipes done now... im starting to wish i just put the front mount on right away as there sure isnt much room anymore at all under the hood...

i have the gtx injectors but they dont plug and play with the harness so i have to get the clips for them... i got that fitting for the coolant return off one of the b6t blocks he has kicking around... i cant find where the coolant enter the throttle body does anyone have pics?

im getting pretty pumped things left are
1- oil feed, i went to 4 shops and couldnt find my british to normal or i guess metric to imperial...

2- oil return- im going to see if there is a spacer and i can pull it off to try the gtx as he said today it will work again so i might as well try since its aluminum and has cooling fins... if not ill get the bulk head washers and nut...

3- coolant feed- i really need that pic- as i think the lines are at the bottom of the throttle body but i dont know whats feed and return... also if i take the feed from the throttle body and dont return it there is that going to affect anything?

4-injectors

fuel pump- i still havent decided whether rx7 or a walbro as i havent researched it to hard
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http://clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41421" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ Heres a thread on CP showing the coolant lines from that area.

http://www.corksport.com/mazda-j-spec-b ... -line.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

^ Oil feed from CS.
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