k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
i just bought a mx3 with a klze.its running kinda strange.it has a mx3 v6(k8)VAF with a KL31 ecu.will it run better and with more whp with a k8 VAF with k8 ECU?
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
no, the kl31/36 ecus are the correct ecu for the klze (actually that's not a 100% true statement but for this topic it is)
the kl31/36 uses the same Vaf as the k8 Je50. So your using the right combination of parts. You can use a k8 ecu but your going to burn more fuel and not have as much power.
What is the actual problem? Define Strange.
the kl31/36 uses the same Vaf as the k8 Je50. So your using the right combination of parts. You can use a k8 ecu but your going to burn more fuel and not have as much power.
What is the actual problem? Define Strange.
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
So the best way to go is with the kl31 ecu with k8 flowmeter?to gain more whp
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
You want the most power, get Megasquirt.
The stock Mx-3 JE50 VAF is the perfect match to the KL31/KL36 ECU', however it's VRIS points are off if you're using the curved-neck intake manifold.
The Probinator chip will not gain you any more power, but the corrected VRIS will give you a broader powerband, so essentially more usable power.
The stock Mx-3 JE50 VAF is the perfect match to the KL31/KL36 ECU', however it's VRIS points are off if you're using the curved-neck intake manifold.
The Probinator chip will not gain you any more power, but the corrected VRIS will give you a broader powerband, so essentially more usable power.
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
I have the straight neck one.I eliminated the butterflys from the intake manifold.
I had the same setup when I had my 94 323 klze hatch.179whp.
13.0 @ 101mph 1/4 time.
But on the hatch I had the mx6 ecu with mx6 flowmeter.
I had the same setup when I had my 94 323 klze hatch.179whp.
13.0 @ 101mph 1/4 time.
But on the hatch I had the mx6 ecu with mx6 flowmeter.
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
The mx6 ecu(kl01 or kl07) will not work with the JE50.
as for what nd4spdse said the probinator makes more power than the kl31/36 Not only are the vris point correct but Ryan also changed a few things on a dyno when he made the chip.
Some people claim that the K8 ecu with the kl02 will make more power. the k8 ecu and JE50 runs rich because of the smaller independance injectors the k8 has. but pair that up with the kl02 vaf from a mx6 or probe and it leans out the a/f's a bit and is supposed to make decent power. I wouldn't mind trying this out myself.
as for what nd4spdse said the probinator makes more power than the kl31/36 Not only are the vris point correct but Ryan also changed a few things on a dyno when he made the chip.
Some people claim that the K8 ecu with the kl02 will make more power. the k8 ecu and JE50 runs rich because of the smaller independance injectors the k8 has. but pair that up with the kl02 vaf from a mx6 or probe and it leans out the a/f's a bit and is supposed to make decent power. I wouldn't mind trying this out myself.
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
well im gonna get a mx6 flowmeter and ecu for this setup
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
From my experience, je50 vaf and ecu for 1.8 k8 engine not mach
mixture is too much rich end absolutely no power get out
anyway i've dubt for vaf efficency but kl31/kl36 ecu with same je50 vaf
is quite better that previous configuration
now mixture is a bit rich in low and med range but 10.8 at high rev
in any case 181 hp now
my goal is check map now and exhaust sensor to exclude vaf failure
mixture is too much rich end absolutely no power get out
anyway i've dubt for vaf efficency but kl31/kl36 ecu with same je50 vaf
is quite better that previous configuration
now mixture is a bit rich in low and med range but 10.8 at high rev
in any case 181 hp now
my goal is check map now and exhaust sensor to exclude vaf failure
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
Exactly. The problem is that the computer doesn't know it's now running a 2.5L motor with 220cc injectors, it still thinks it's the K8 and adjust according to that.mx3 novice wrote:From my experience, je50 vaf and ecu for 1.8 k8 engine not mach
If you're running a 2.5L motor, use the apropriate ECU a VAF for it to run right...that's it that's all.
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2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
just bought a kl07 ecu with a kl02 VAF
i tried the kl31 ecu with k8 vaf but chek engine light does not turn on.why?
i tried the kl31 ecu with k8 vaf but chek engine light does not turn on.why?
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
They do not have Cel on those ecu... You can still pull codes though...
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
ok so with wich setup will il have more whp :
KL31 ECU - JE50 VAF or KL07 ECU - KL02 VAF?
KL31 ECU - JE50 VAF or KL07 ECU - KL02 VAF?
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
i'm going to go with the kl31/36 setup with the je50 vaf
but ultimately megasquirt will yield you the most being 190whp or more
but ultimately megasquirt will yield you the most being 190whp or more
08 Infiniti G37s 6speed (The Daily)
Stillen Cold Air Intake, Z1 Plenum Power Mod, Z1 Headers, Z1 Test Pipe, OBX (Ark) Exhaust, Up-Rev Osiris Engine Management (Tuned at Z1), 20x9" 20x10" Str Racing Concave Staggered Rims, SPC Camber kit, Tein H Techs Springs
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93 Mx3 SE 2.5 KLZE (sold it)
93 Mx3 GS 2.0 KFZE (killed it)
Stillen Cold Air Intake, Z1 Plenum Power Mod, Z1 Headers, Z1 Test Pipe, OBX (Ark) Exhaust, Up-Rev Osiris Engine Management (Tuned at Z1), 20x9" 20x10" Str Racing Concave Staggered Rims, SPC Camber kit, Tein H Techs Springs
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Re: k8 ecu VS kl31 ecu
why wont the kl07 ecu display a check engine light?