bent shift shaft on trans now what?!

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Re: bent shift shaft on trans now what?!

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I didnt believe the dropped gears problem.. until it hapened to me .. TUN TUN TUNNNNNN!


really :( well my friends mx3 when we were working on it. On mine it didnt do that , but I did use a round piece of broom to hold gears in place tho.
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Stupid auto parts store I had to wait all day to get my new axle seals... Am gonna give this a go tomorrow, and about that thing falling out I hope it goes back in easy.
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wagZE wrote:Stupid auto parts store I had to wait all day to get my new axle seals... Am gonna give this a go tomorrow, and about that thing falling out I hope it goes back in easy.
Believe me: with or without tutorial, the differential spider gears are the least of your problems. Especially if this is your first transmission.
Take your time, and document everything you do.
It'll make your life much easier.
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So I was just gonna use my burnt old transmission and swap sensors and rubber pieces. As soon as I got the old axle piece out that was stuck in the damm piece that the axle gears slide into fell into the transmission. This is a nightmare. A real night mare. I stuck something in the other side like hec said to hold the other side in but now I can't find the other in there. There seems to be a rounded washer floating in there aswell.
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hgallegos915 wrote:I didnt believe the dropped gears problem.. until it hapened to me .. TUN TUN TUNNNNNN!


really :( well my friends mx3 when we were working on it. On mine it didnt do that , but I did use a round piece of broom to hold gears in place tho.
Howd you or he fix?
This is bad
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wagZE wrote:So I was just gonna use my burnt old transmission and swap sensors and rubber pieces. As soon as I got the old axle piece out that was stuck in the damm piece that the axle gears slide into fell into the transmission. This is a nightmare. A real night mare. I stuck something in the other side like hec said to hold the other side in but now I can't find the other in there. There seems to be a rounded washer floating in there aswell.
It's not a nightmare, but it is a fairly complicated job. Remember: you're just trying to do alone, with no more help than an internet article and a few suggestions, a job that took most of us a long time to learn, even with somebody else holding our hand.
I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm trying to prepare you. Just take your time.
Doesn't matter if you need a couple hours to move a part, or to take out a bolt. Look at it, study it, until you're comfortable that nothing will happen. And take pictures. Remember you have to put it back together afterwards.
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Well I ditched the taking apart tranny idea shortly after starting I am not capable or comfortable putting that back together and putting in my car. Iam using a spare one I had from a few years back... But the dif spider gears fell I can get one side but not the other... Have been struggling for hours. This almost seems hopeless.
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It's not hopeless. You're just in over your head.
I disassembled and reassembled my first transmission when I was 8 years old, with my cousin (who was just a few months away from getting his mechanics engineer's degree) looking over my shoulder and guiding me the whole time. That was a 3 speed, non synchronized tranny from a Citroen 2CV, and even with such a simple machine, it took us 2 full days to finish the job (that he alone could've probably finished in an hour), and when we went to test the car, we realized we had put the differential backwards (it's not suppossed to fit that way... :oops: ), and now the car was doing reverse in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, and going forward in reverse!

You, on the other hand, are trying to fix a 5 speed SYNCHRONIZED tranny, with very little help (if any at all). So, don't feel bad. As I suggested at the beginning, cut your losses, if you have another tranny, use it, or else, go to a junkyard and get another one. Believe me, the tranny's cost will be nothing compared with what you'll save on aspirin...
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Inodoro Pereyra wrote:It's not hopeless. You're just in over your head.
I disassembled and reassembled my first transmission when I was 8 years old, with my cousin (who was just a few months away from getting his mechanics engineer's degree) looking over my shoulder and guiding me the whole time. That was a 3 speed, non synchronized tranny from a Citroen 2CV, and even with such a simple machine, it took us 2 full days to finish the job (that he alone could've probably finished in an hour), and when we went to test the car, we realized we had put the differential backwards (it's not suppossed to fit that way... :oops: ), and now the car was doing reverse in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, and going forward in reverse!

You, on the other hand, are trying to fix a 5 speed SYNCHRONIZED tranny, with very little help (if any at all). So, don't feel bad. As I suggested at the beginning, cut your losses, if you have another tranny, use it, or else, go to a junkyard and get another one. Believe me, the tranny's cost will be nothing compared with what you'll save on aspirin...
Oh dang eight? I got to at least be able to get these axle gears back in place. I mean one wouldn't have to disassemble s g series tranny to move those two things back into place to be able to get axles in right? I mean I can't live with the fact that neither of these two trannys will work now.
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WagZE: you're making me feel like cr@p.
I was eight, but I had an almost engineer behind me, every step of the way, and the tranny was the simplest kind of tranny you could ask for. And even then, WE ASSEMBLED IT WRONG!!!

Believe me: you did great!
Now, forget about it, and get your car moving...
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Can't get those things to line up right gonna have to take it to tranny shop Monday dam
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