KLZE Fuel economy questions
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
Dont have a engine in the car, but I was running a stock bodied mx3 with a amp and sub box for weight adders. ebrake was not rubbing and I was running 5w40 synthetic
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
i am using heavy weights for race car longevity, synthetic 75-140 for the gear box and 20w 50 for the motor, seems to be a happy little car with these weights i'm sure if i went to lower viscosity could gain like 5-10 wheel hp but i was tired of burning stuff up quickly and seems to work for me. also my car weighs 2450 lbs some room for improvement. also a side note when i was getting 25 mpg i had 4 tires non mounted, 1 full size spare, tool chest, full size jack, jackstands and chemicals and other misc car parts probably more closer to 3000lbs or so with me in the car
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
my hwy fuel economy is down because i rev so high. 205 40 17 tires, the overall diameter of the tire is smaller then my stock 205 55 15 ones. it revs a noticeable amount higher and my hwy gas mileage is down because of that. k8 for now but maybe your tires are too small like mine. i can blame everything on the car till my face goes blue for my bad gas but in the back of my head i know its an issue with my right foot.
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
well forst off put your bloody cat back on, cuz you grand grand grand children will be paying for clean air because you wanted .25hp on on you 180 nothing horsepower car, second about fuel milege
take a can of seafoam and seafoam the car http://www.youtube.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; search word seafoam, and theforget about regular, 30mpg+easy, shift at 4 grand, and keep the foot off the gas when cruising, tap it, almost like cab drivers do, i used to deliver pizza and i was getting better fuel milege then a toyota tercel
take a can of seafoam and seafoam the car http://www.youtube.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; search word seafoam, and theforget about regular, 30mpg+easy, shift at 4 grand, and keep the foot off the gas when cruising, tap it, almost like cab drivers do, i used to deliver pizza and i was getting better fuel milege then a toyota tercel
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
Those are what I'm running, but I've also got a ZE too.projectzemx3 wrote:my hwy fuel economy is down because i rev so high. 205 40 17 tires, the overall diameter of the tire is smaller then my stock 205 55 15 ones. it revs a noticeable amount higher and my hwy gas mileage is down because of that. k8 for now but maybe your tires are too small like mine.
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
Sorry to bump old thread...
I have a KLZE straight neck
KL31 cams
Running 98 octane fuel
No cat
Car not running so great at the moment (not so powerful)
Gear changes strategically (put in 5th at 20kmph if going on massive downhill)
10W50 oil
So far got about 350KM and have just under a 1/4 of a tank. I hope to hit 400 before it reads empty, which requires usually about 35L to fill.
For Americans - I hope to get 250 miles off about 9 gallons. 27 miles to gallon is what I am kind of getting with the ZE. Almost the same if not better than the K8.![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I have a KLZE straight neck
KL31 cams
Running 98 octane fuel
No cat
Car not running so great at the moment (not so powerful)
Gear changes strategically (put in 5th at 20kmph if going on massive downhill)
10W50 oil
So far got about 350KM and have just under a 1/4 of a tank. I hope to hit 400 before it reads empty, which requires usually about 35L to fill.
For Americans - I hope to get 250 miles off about 9 gallons. 27 miles to gallon is what I am kind of getting with the ZE. Almost the same if not better than the K8.
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
How can you have a low pressure walbro pump?Nd4SpdSe wrote:
My setup is a KL01 Curved-Neck ZE. KL36 ECU with a JE50 VAF, changed to a Probiantor in a K8 ECU, modified-to-fit OBX headers with new 02 sensors, 2.5" crush bent exhaust with a Magnaflow high-flow cat and no resonator, stock FPR with a low-pressure Walbro 255LPH fuel pump. Original Mx-3 tranny with Mx-3 flywheel. Usually running Sonoco 94, or the highest octane I can get.
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Must be nice, I get around 200 miles per gallon (turbo untunned driving like i stole it)
When it comes to power tho, who cares about gas mileage right? lol
When it comes to power tho, who cares about gas mileage right? lol
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MX-3 w/ curved neck millenia klde, boosted @ 5 psi. /bov and wastegate are good!/ nitto drag radial/ gutted interior/ millenia red top injectors, vortech fmu/aem wideband/ all bolts ons/ Car put together 100% by me. Mechanic? who needs a mechanic? ew.. real men work on their own cars!
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
Cause one exists.WhiteFinish wrote:How can you have a low pressure walbro pump?Nd4SpdSe wrote:
My setup is a KL01 Curved-Neck ZE. KL36 ECU with a JE50 VAF, changed to a Probiantor in a K8 ECU, modified-to-fit OBX headers with new 02 sensors, 2.5" crush bent exhaust with a Magnaflow high-flow cat and no resonator, stock FPR with a low-pressure Walbro 255LPH fuel pump. Original Mx-3 tranny with Mx-3 flywheel. Usually running Sonoco 94, or the highest octane I can get.
There's the 255LPH HP (High-Pressure) WAL-GSS342 and the Non-HP (if you want to call it that) WAL-GSS-317
Maybe calling it a low-pressure pump isn't correct, but it's not a high-pressure. The HP's are known to blow the stock FPR. Most don't been to know that there are 2 version of the 255LPH
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2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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Aaah... nice to have learned something again ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But what are the advantages and disadvantages?
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But what are the advantages and disadvantages?
Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
WTF?hgallegos915 wrote:Must be nice, I get around 200 miles per gallon (turbo untunned driving like i stole it)
When it comes to power tho, who cares about gas mileage right? lol
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Good Q. The advantage to the non-HP is that you can use your stock FPR and not blow it upWhiteFinish wrote:Aaah... nice to have learned something again
But what are the advantages and disadvantages?
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2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
Solo, if it makes you feel any better, I'm averaging about 9mpg.
That's city, of course, with constant hard driving. KL-31/ZE with a millenia intake. New plugs, wires, etc. Headers, mostly stock catback. No A/C. OBD-II K8 ECU with JE50 vaf. Yes I know it's awful; I just ordered a KL-02 VAF and AFPR to see if I can lean it out.
It's so rich right now I'm fouling plugs.
I literally get about 170km on a 50L tank.
So.. hope that helps.![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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That's city, of course, with constant hard driving. KL-31/ZE with a millenia intake. New plugs, wires, etc. Headers, mostly stock catback. No A/C. OBD-II K8 ECU with JE50 vaf. Yes I know it's awful; I just ordered a KL-02 VAF and AFPR to see if I can lean it out.
It's so rich right now I'm fouling plugs.
I literally get about 170km on a 50L tank.
So.. hope that helps.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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1996 MX-3 GS-ZE 2.5L 5spd
KLZE+LSD / Headers / KL02 VAF / Clutchmasters stage-I / Fidanza 9lb flywheel / Eibach Pro Kit / Tokico HPs / Urethane bushings & mounts / SSR Comp-C 16x7 / General Exclaim UHP 205/45R16 / Wilwood 13" brakes / Whiteline rear swaybar / Carputer / Software Crossover / Infinity components+subs / 41hz Tripath Amp9 / Trunk SLA batt / Keyless entry
Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
OUCH!! Man that sucks, hope you get it leaned out soon. I know my first ZE swap on the stock K8 ECU was horrible, I was getting about 12mpg I think.nightfire wrote:Solo, if it makes you feel any better, I'm averaging about 9mpg.![]()
That's city, of course, with constant hard driving. KL-31/ZE with a millenia intake. New plugs, wires, etc. Headers, mostly stock catback. No A/C. OBD-II K8 ECU with JE50 vaf. Yes I know it's awful; I just ordered a KL-02 VAF and AFPR to see if I can lean it out.
It's so rich right now I'm fouling plugs.
I literally get about 170km on a 50L tank.
So.. hope that helps.
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Re: KLZE Fuel economy questions
When would your fuel economy be better?
When driving with vris1 and 2 open or closed?
When driving with vris1 and 2 open or closed?