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it would help if you have machinist/engineering degree. Hood scoop is always possible, look at early eclipses, they had non-functional hood scoop from the factory, WRX have them, etc.
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melb30x wrote:i see...hence the more practical turbo option..i hate turbos with their lag..
I am a big fan of supercharging myself, however Turbo lag is so 1982! If you choose the proper Turbo there will be no lag. You could have a Turbo that would spool at idle. The only problem is a quick spooling turbo could cause flow issues at higher RPMs. If the turbo is sized right you could get a very good compromise of low end grunt and high RPM horsepower. I want one of these!! (STS remote mount turbo set-up).
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what does the mounting flange on the Millenia S IM look like?
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IMACHU2 wrote: I want one of these!! (STS remote mount turbo set-up).
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I saw a 07' Vette with 2 of these. 850hp ish. I thought about how to do this on a MX-3. I think you'd have to reshape the floor at the back but for sure it could be done.
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K, now do you NOT have lag when the turbo is mounted a dozen feet away from the motor? Personally, I think that idea is stupid, second only to the electric turbo's
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No lag with that set-up. Properly sized turbos!

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With the turbo located in the rear of the vehicle, is there turbo lag?
No, due to extensive engineering and proper sizing of the turbos and piping, the turbochargers operate very well at this remote location. All of our systems will produce full boost below 3000 rpm. If you were to take a front-mount turbo system and place it at the rear, you would have lag issues, and similarly, our turbo system wouldn't work properly if front-mounted. Also, our intake tubing volume is about the same as most conventional turbo setups that are running a front-mounted intercooler, and is less than many of them that run large intercoolers. Our system is not like a small compressor filling up a large air tank, it is like a huge compressor filling up a very small volume. Our systems compress the intake tubing in about .05 seconds. If our patented and innovative rear-mounted technolgy had problems with turbo lag, we would not have the large number of happy customers that we have today. Please visit our Testimonials page for more insight.

I don't sell them (by the way)......I should though LOL :lol:

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"I think you'd have to reshape the floor at the back but for sure it could be done".

Step one: Sawsall the spare tire well out.

Step two: Weld flat sheet metal in place of spare tire well.

Step three: Add turbo. :lol:

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Not stupid at all. This is proven technology. It won't have the kind of efficiency as a conventional turbo, but they work very well and are much easier to mount in most applications.
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IMACHU2 wrote:"I think you'd have to reshape the floor at the back but for sure it could be done".

Step one: Sawsall the spare tire well out.

Step two: Weld flat sheet metal in place of spare tire well.

Step three: Add turbo. :lol:

I told myself no boost, or nitrous for this project. I never listen to myself though.
Yeah...I still don't think I would mount a turbo by the wheels in the climate I live in. I am really warming up to the cetrifugal SC idea though.
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I had thought about doing something like that for this reasone: You could put an airbag in line that could pressurize instead of blowing off, and hold that pressure until you need it again. You'd need a rising rate pressure regulator, but imagine having boost with no lag whatsoever. Imagine it like this; You rev and let off, and that compresses the air so that as soon as you open the throttle, you have boost.
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That's just crazy talk.
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What turbo lag?



All you need is the right turbo size..


its easier that supercharged.


In the probe yes it easier to supercharge because the engine bay, theres room. With us.. I dunno.. someone should try it and let us know.. it would be sweet if we could fit a clutched supercharger.
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dont know if you guys searched youtube...but there are supercharged mx-3's out there.
here's a clip of one set up:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=BO-At2q88Mc&NR=1
so it just seems like we need to make a custom bracket for the supercharger .. installation shouldn't be hard..
cai piping would have to be moved which is easy..i dont know about the intercooler....maybe just throw it in the passengers sit?? who needs pasengers?? less weight the better!! :lol:
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This thread is kinda lame. Its been discussed enough times, look on probetalk if you want more information.

Yea there are a few supercharged mx3's. That one in the video is using aldorins kit (from PT) with a shafted pulley across the front bank. This is the whole issue with the supercharger setup as you cannot make a cheap, or expensive reliable version of this. The bearings commonly blow and the belt constantly slips.

There is a AC mounted setup (custom) as well that you can create and that I was going to do on my last car. It is completely possible, but in the end if you want power go turbo, you wont make alot of power with a charger. Plus I think after some time that noise would really get to you, that was one of the reasons for my sale.

Hector, a clutched m62 fits fine. The probes frame rail ont he passenger side is just as close if not closer to the motor as a mx3 one is. It fits between the rad and motor fine. I remember we had a conversation about this, but you had a eaton m90 charger, that is large and will not fit because of the snout. A clutch m60 or m45 does not have a snout (or a very short one). ND4SPD, the xterra or and the nissan small trucks truck uses a snouted m62 charger. Same as the mercedes m60 chargers

If people are seriously interested in making a supercharger kit, I assembled mine for just over 2000$ CAD. I have some plans and pictures demonstrating what to do. Contact me if you wish.
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No there is room, people are to afraid to cut, or try different parts you could get enough room to put a supercharger like a vortech in that area...

Don't remember the year Miata (maybe 95) radiator is the same length as the but its shorter, thickness is about the same. That gets you a few inches of play. Or you could go with a radiator from lets say a Honda, get a racing performance one thats nice and thick and will cool the engine (they can I've seen them used). You just have to fab up brackets to mount it (not that hard) and extend some coolant piping (good more time its not in the engine the cooler it stays). Add a Nice Slim line fan to cool, and after your done mounting the supercharger, I would see about mounting another fan to blow on the engine if need be. Nothing wrong with more Air.
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