Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
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Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
Any ideas? Im uing restrictors, got a HUGE drain line.
I even used real garret and it smoked...
what am I doing wrong?
tons of bad ebay turbos, one bad nissan and one bad garret.. my luck cant get any worse...
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Oks.. i got the EBAY turbo to stop smoking..
well i just kinked the oil line a bit.. I noticed my buddy had it like that.
and another fellow turbo mx3 who uses ebay turbos. He is using a motorcycle oil line.
So im going to rig up some sort of regulator so i can regulate the oil psi at 20 which is what garret recommends on my kind of bearings.
there ya go!
we can use ebay turbos.. as long as we regulate the oil supply.
Cold psi was 75!!!! with the restrictor..
I even used real garret and it smoked...
what am I doing wrong?
tons of bad ebay turbos, one bad nissan and one bad garret.. my luck cant get any worse...
[EDIT]
Oks.. i got the EBAY turbo to stop smoking..
well i just kinked the oil line a bit.. I noticed my buddy had it like that.
and another fellow turbo mx3 who uses ebay turbos. He is using a motorcycle oil line.
So im going to rig up some sort of regulator so i can regulate the oil psi at 20 which is what garret recommends on my kind of bearings.
there ya go!
we can use ebay turbos.. as long as we regulate the oil supply.
Cold psi was 75!!!! with the restrictor..
Last edited by hgallegos915 on October 3rd, 2008, 5:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?
You proly have a kink in your oil line
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
75psi? holy crap. do the ebay turbos just have a really restrictive path for the oil or something? It sounds to me like one of the biggest faults for the cheap turbo is that they smoke a lot. If reducing the oil pressure keeps it from blowing through the seals, maybe I'll play around with one.
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
Yea they arent too bad as long as you can maintain a happy level for oil pressure.ElectricEnergy wrote:75psi? holy crap. do the ebay turbos just have a really restrictive path for the oil or something? It sounds to me like one of the biggest faults for the cheap turbo is that they smoke a lot. If reducing the oil pressure keeps it from blowing through the seals, maybe I'll play around with one.
Though they tend to not perform as well as their legitimate counter parts. they use less quality materials and they use an ancient style of balancing the turbo, were talking 70's-80's style baby
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
man i fixed the problem and the car HAULS!
NO SMOKE!
I love it!
NO SMOKE!
I love it!
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
What was the issue Hec?hgallegos915 wrote:man i fixed the problem and the car HAULS!
NO SMOKE!
I love it!
Was I right?
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
I just needed to control the oil pressure.
I kinked the line.
It smokes when the line becomes unkinked LOL
I need to develop or get some sort of valve to control the pressure the right way.
Reading around, we only need around 20 - 30 psi for those turbo. Actually garrets
I kinked the line.
It smokes when the line becomes unkinked LOL
I need to develop or get some sort of valve to control the pressure the right way.
Reading around, we only need around 20 - 30 psi for those turbo. Actually garrets
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
please let us know how you restrict the oil flow to the turbo as that might be a good reason for me to try out a kit sometimes if it really is that problem only
arent there ready made restrictors available to put between the oilline and the turbo to prevent these high pressures
and how did you measure the pressure at the oilline?
arent there ready made restrictors available to put between the oilline and the turbo to prevent these high pressures
and how did you measure the pressure at the oilline?
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
Use an oil feed restrictor.
.065 should be adequate.
.065 should be adequate.
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
I was and it was not working for me.. maybe something is wrong with my engine?
no smoke still..
day 3 of driving it.
Ive even driven long drives and its good.
no smoke still..
day 3 of driving it.
Ive even driven long drives and its good.
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
hey hgallegos915 i saw your video on youtube,,, NICE!!! and you said that when you kink the oil feed line the ebay turbo works???does it really...
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
yeah.. believe it or not LOL it does LOL
i was like WOAH..
one day it was smoking alot.. the line had become unkinked.
o I squished it a bit with some lock jaws and it work well.
i was like WOAH..
one day it was smoking alot.. the line had become unkinked.
o I squished it a bit with some lock jaws and it work well.
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MX-3 w/ curved neck millenia klde, boosted @ 5 psi. /bov and wastegate are good!/ nitto drag radial/ gutted interior/ millenia red top injectors, vortech fmu/aem wideband/ all bolts ons/ Car put together 100% by me. Mechanic? who needs a mechanic? ew.. real men work on their own cars!
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oh ok lol nice so i guess i'll buy and ebay kit and whats your email?
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why? are you going to paypal me some free money for finding out? lol
why? are you going to paypal me some free money for finding out? lol
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Re: Whats causing my turbos to fail?(FIXED)
you could get a needle valve for and hydraulic line with compression fit ends for the size of oile line your running, then you could have pretty accurate and reliable pressure.
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