need a tranny to hold 450wHP
- se7en
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need a tranny to hold 450wHP
okay folks, I want to be the first in the 9's running the kl series engine.
the power end of it is easy (relatively speaking) I will run a de with ze? heads and de valetrain, and 20-21psi boost.
running a turbonetics 60-1 t4 .63 a/r making 450-470whp
okay, here's my problem.
the tranny.
I know that I will need tough axles, but the most problem is the launch.
do I have to buy the quaife lsd? is there a more cost effecient lsd that will hold that power?
I read somewhere about welding the diff or something?
also, it doesn't have to last forever, but at least 10 runs for tuning , then I can turn the boost back to a more realistic number
is there straight cut gears available for the g-series trans?
I am aiming for a 1.55-1.7 60 foot time to get the number with 26X15X10.5" drag radials.
I may launch and make the pass with less boost, and use some spray at the top for the runs, I haven't decided yet.
so, any ideas tranny gods?
lets make history
as far as I can tell, 10.80's is as fast as an mx-3 has run in street trim FWD(done by rafi)
and that was a bp.
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edit: would it help maybe to lower the front and raise the backend? to keep the weight in the front...
the power end of it is easy (relatively speaking) I will run a de with ze? heads and de valetrain, and 20-21psi boost.
running a turbonetics 60-1 t4 .63 a/r making 450-470whp
okay, here's my problem.
the tranny.
I know that I will need tough axles, but the most problem is the launch.
do I have to buy the quaife lsd? is there a more cost effecient lsd that will hold that power?
I read somewhere about welding the diff or something?
also, it doesn't have to last forever, but at least 10 runs for tuning , then I can turn the boost back to a more realistic number
is there straight cut gears available for the g-series trans?
I am aiming for a 1.55-1.7 60 foot time to get the number with 26X15X10.5" drag radials.
I may launch and make the pass with less boost, and use some spray at the top for the runs, I haven't decided yet.
so, any ideas tranny gods?
lets make history
as far as I can tell, 10.80's is as fast as an mx-3 has run in street trim FWD(done by rafi)
and that was a bp.
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edit: would it help maybe to lower the front and raise the backend? to keep the weight in the front...
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
That was not a BP, but a FE3.se7en wrote:as far as I can tell, 10.80's is as fast as an mx-3 has run in street trim FWD(done by rafi)
and that was a bp.
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
oh yeah, that's right...I knew that......my mistake
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
450whp will not get u into the 9's
93' MX-3 GS-ZE
14.4 @ 96.7
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14.4 @ 96.7
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
If I can stick off the line, then 450Wheel HP will get me into the 9's.
just for example(I know these things are usually generous):
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
using that link as an example, using 2200lbs car with 450WHP runs 9.88 best case senerio.
I think that if I can stick it I will get close.
ps. I am not just some noob...I have been racing 10-11 sec cars for 8 years now.
so lets see what happens.
back to my original question.....can I get straight cut gears for this tranny? other recommend tranny upgrades?
(g-series specific)
thanks
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just for example(I know these things are usually generous):
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
using that link as an example, using 2200lbs car with 450WHP runs 9.88 best case senerio.
I think that if I can stick it I will get close.
ps. I am not just some noob...I have been racing 10-11 sec cars for 8 years now.
so lets see what happens.
back to my original question.....can I get straight cut gears for this tranny? other recommend tranny upgrades?
(g-series specific)
thanks
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
OK - Check out the following link
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthre ... t=3rd+gear" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The link provides some info on a various options for upgraded gear sets suppled by PAR out of Aussie. Big dollars for a genuine solution If you are serious about your 450wHP goal
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthre ... t=3rd+gear" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The link provides some info on a various options for upgraded gear sets suppled by PAR out of Aussie. Big dollars for a genuine solution If you are serious about your 450wHP goal
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
I know this may sound random, but have a read through the loooooong TPS thread, KiwiMx3 was building a drag MX3 and posted some info in there...., actually, have a check thru some of his posts, there's tidbits of info everywhere lol! most of his stuff was homemade or custom-made
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
I did a search on kikimx3, and found nothing.
is that on mx-3.com?? or is that a probetalk or mx6.com person??
is that on mx-3.com?? or is that a probetalk or mx6.com person??
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
nevermind, I found it (kiwi_mx3)
heh.. thanks for the info..
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heh.. thanks for the info..
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
custom straight cut gears are made by a company called RPM engineering in auckland
New zealand for the mazda gearbox P.O.A.
first and third gear are the weakest link, a GTX third seems to be the strongest factory gear
so far.
I have bellhousing plates that remove the motormount stress from the gearbox assy which stops
a lot of cracking of the gearbox. my mazspeed lsd redrilled for extra arp bolts seems to be fine
so far.
I currently pull a 1.8 60' with a custom front end and shocks, if i was to run a wheelie bar i could
cut that to a 1.6, jacking the rear does nothing and 1000 lbs springs is scary on a short wheelbase
car in the topend.
Matt.
New zealand for the mazda gearbox P.O.A.
first and third gear are the weakest link, a GTX third seems to be the strongest factory gear
so far.
I have bellhousing plates that remove the motormount stress from the gearbox assy which stops
a lot of cracking of the gearbox. my mazspeed lsd redrilled for extra arp bolts seems to be fine
so far.
I currently pull a 1.8 60' with a custom front end and shocks, if i was to run a wheelie bar i could
cut that to a 1.6, jacking the rear does nothing and 1000 lbs springs is scary on a short wheelbase
car in the topend.
Matt.
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
1.8 60' that's not bad....1.6 is what I will need to run my time...
what E.T. do you get? MPH?
thanks for coming out of retirement eh!!
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what E.T. do you get? MPH?
thanks for coming out of retirement eh!!
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
Interesting - Kiwi_mx3 and Kiwimx3
whats the deal with the user name? Kiwi_mx3 had plenty to contribute (granted - not for a long while) and all of it bloody useful.
So who is Kiwimx3?
whats the deal with the user name? Kiwi_mx3 had plenty to contribute (granted - not for a long while) and all of it bloody useful.
So who is Kiwimx3?
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
currently a best of 12's @ 115mph and thats if i have traction.
My bellhousing is machined 6mm and i have a plate
( ever seen how the v8 motors are mounted in tube chassis )
setup that picks up the front mount and the diff housing
also i have a modified 626 mount mounted to the rear of the
plate and it picks up the rear chassis member that the steering rack
is mounted on.
My bellhousing is machined 6mm and i have a plate
( ever seen how the v8 motors are mounted in tube chassis )
setup that picks up the front mount and the diff housing
also i have a modified 626 mount mounted to the rear of the
plate and it picks up the rear chassis member that the steering rack
is mounted on.
Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
Its me matt the same guy, my old account is locked and the only way to get a new one is this.projectB10 wrote:Interesting - Kiwi_mx3 and Kiwimx3
whats the deal with the user name? Kiwi_mx3 had plenty to contribute (granted - not for a long while) and all of it bloody useful.
So who is Kiwimx3?
and to post a answer to the guys questions.
does that answer your question ian?
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Re: need a tranny to hold 450wHP
Welcome back Matt Great to see you back on the forum. You have been away?? Not inside but overseas ?Its me matt the same guy, my old account is locked and the only way to get a new one is this.
and to post a answer to the guys questions.
does that answer your question ian?
12's and 115. You have a lot to tell us about.
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