Peppin up a KLZE
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Peppin up a KLZE
what are the easiest/cheapest ways to give your kl some more pep?!
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You can also add cams onto there aswell as a Fidinza Flywheelsolo_ryder wrote:Search.
Intake, headers, exhaust, wires, plugs, ignition... Those are all things that will help the KL get some more power.
If I had the money, I would get my heads worked on in every way I could. 3 valve job, cams, port and polish, springs, valves, ect.
Then I would get a custom I/M. Bore and stroke the KLZE engine to 2.7L and put 350ZX pistons in it aswell as Mustang rods.
They will fit and it would be a really good bullet proof setup.
Rebel2k was making about 395whp out of a KLDE 2.7L engine with a similar setup on a KLDE block with KLDE heads and everything else being stock
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KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
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I though that seemed way too much for an N/A setup. I checked and it was as I though, that's his boosted powerJuans_93_MX3 wrote:Rebel2k was making about 395whp out of a KLDE 2.7L engine with a similar setup on a KLDE block with KLDE heads and everything else being stock
94 Mazda MX3 GS - 395 whp 397 ft lbs untuned on pump gas and stock KLDE 15 psi boost
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wtf is with u and that rebel guy juan? theres nothin special bout his setup.. jeez u can get stock rods and pistons and get forged ones and make the same power he has.. for him its just braggin rights... woopdy doo i got mustang rods and 300zx pistons!!!
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How do you bore out while still using stock pistons?fieromx3 wrote:wtf is with u and that rebel guy juan? theres nothin special bout his setup.. jeez u can get stock rods and pistons and get forged ones and make the same power he has for him its just braggin rights... woopdy doo i got mustang rods and 300zx pistons!!!
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2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
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exactly what i ment thx illa.. just seems juan is all obesessd with it when nothin special bout itIlla Killa wrote:I think he was saying that you can get that same HP number using stock internals. Rebel was just using other parts for bragging rights. Its kinda true also, because Rebel made about that same number on a bone stock KLDE with the same psi, its just not as reliable in the long run.
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I disagree...
Mind you, we're talking about ZE mods, not boosting a ZE. Of course increasing the displacement (and compressing with the 300zx N/A pistons) will yeild more more over the stock setup. ,As for being easy and cheap, not likely. But for those seaking N/A power (like myself), it seems like a very interesting setup that I am currently considering in the future.
Although this is off topic of this thread, i'm sure it is is a special setup. The fact of improving the motor's durability under boost is a plus. Although it's possible to make the same numbers with either stock or Rebel's setup, that's not all that matters. Although I don't know the compression with the 300zx TT pistons, even if compression was the same, but the bore was increased, there sould be an improvement in N/A pre-boost power. As well, with more air being drawn into the motor, I wouldn't be surprised that with that extra "air" eventually coming out it would aid in making the turbo spool quicker; although that's just a theory, the only real way would be to compare dyno sheets. In the end, even tho the final max HP and TQ could be the same, there could be significantly more usable power and larger power band with Rebel's 2.66L setup.
Mind you, we're talking about ZE mods, not boosting a ZE. Of course increasing the displacement (and compressing with the 300zx N/A pistons) will yeild more more over the stock setup. ,As for being easy and cheap, not likely. But for those seaking N/A power (like myself), it seems like a very interesting setup that I am currently considering in the future.
Although this is off topic of this thread, i'm sure it is is a special setup. The fact of improving the motor's durability under boost is a plus. Although it's possible to make the same numbers with either stock or Rebel's setup, that's not all that matters. Although I don't know the compression with the 300zx TT pistons, even if compression was the same, but the bore was increased, there sould be an improvement in N/A pre-boost power. As well, with more air being drawn into the motor, I wouldn't be surprised that with that extra "air" eventually coming out it would aid in making the turbo spool quicker; although that's just a theory, the only real way would be to compare dyno sheets. In the end, even tho the final max HP and TQ could be the same, there could be significantly more usable power and larger power band with Rebel's 2.66L setup.
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There's plenty of use for a 400hp Mx-3...it's the praticality that's questionable, but when you have a 400hp car, who care?
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2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
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2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project