Thinking of buying a 4cyl MX3, what is the potential?
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Thinking of buying a 4cyl MX3, what is the potential?
As many of you know me, I own a V6 MX3 and am thinking of doing the 5speed swap aswell as KLZE with other mods
Anyway, lately I been finding 4cyl MX3s for cheap and I just got a couple questions
1.) A BPT should run me from $800 to $1200 and that includes the turbo and piping aswell as the turbo manifold?
2.) What is the fastest way to get atleast 240hp out of these BPTs?
Can you upgrade the turbo to like a T3/T4, 3inch downpipe/exhaust manifold/exhaust, bigger fuel injectors, boost control?
Seriously, is it hard to get these BPTs to 240hp without spend too much money?
Anyway, lately I been finding 4cyl MX3s for cheap and I just got a couple questions
1.) A BPT should run me from $800 to $1200 and that includes the turbo and piping aswell as the turbo manifold?
2.) What is the fastest way to get atleast 240hp out of these BPTs?
Can you upgrade the turbo to like a T3/T4, 3inch downpipe/exhaust manifold/exhaust, bigger fuel injectors, boost control?
Seriously, is it hard to get these BPTs to 240hp without spend too much money?
2008 Mazda 3
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
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what ur $$$$ or $$$ really whats ur buget man. i have a quick 4cly mx-3
(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
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I can buy a RS for like $1000 and after I paint my MX3 GS I can sell it for $2200
I am willing to spend about $2000-$2500 on a MX3
BPT swap is about $1000, but is it a easy swap?
I can get a T3 for like $300. But would a T3 work well with a BPT?
I wouldnt mind spending more money on a intercooler.
Now tell me, is it easy to mod the BPTs like it is to like say a GST Eclipse or GSX Eclipse where all you really have to do is add a bigger exhaust, intercooler, boost control, dyno tune, bigger turbo and other small stuff to get to about 240hp?
In other words, a few mods here and there, dyno tuning and bam 240hp?
I'm just kind of hyped about the BPT because it does come with a turbo
I am willing to spend about $2000-$2500 on a MX3
BPT swap is about $1000, but is it a easy swap?
I can get a T3 for like $300. But would a T3 work well with a BPT?
I wouldnt mind spending more money on a intercooler.
Now tell me, is it easy to mod the BPTs like it is to like say a GST Eclipse or GSX Eclipse where all you really have to do is add a bigger exhaust, intercooler, boost control, dyno tune, bigger turbo and other small stuff to get to about 240hp?
In other words, a few mods here and there, dyno tuning and bam 240hp?
I'm just kind of hyped about the BPT because it does come with a turbo
2008 Mazda 3
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
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well fist off i don't a BPT in my mx-3 i have the N/A BP second cost money man. iam running a SC61 on my bp i think like a honda guy more power but i drive a mazda. reason for that remark and i work at a shop. honda guys aren't afarid to spent money but mazda guys are cheap. hate to say that but its true. i begged my bother to upgrade to a street/race setup on his MX-6 GT.
(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
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How much does a BP cost (not a BPT)?
Can the internals take a good beating?
What would be a better option? Buying a BPT then changing the turbo or buying a BP and adding a turbo system?
Also, if I just want to hit 220hp, what mods would I go for?
Or how about this, if I just want to stick at 200hp and 160ft torque, other then changing the engine, water pump, timing belt and the other parts is there anything big I have to change that might cost me alot of money?
No need to change tranny or wiring harness?
Is it a simple swap?
Can the internals take a good beating?
What would be a better option? Buying a BPT then changing the turbo or buying a BP and adding a turbo system?
Also, if I just want to hit 220hp, what mods would I go for?
Or how about this, if I just want to stick at 200hp and 160ft torque, other then changing the engine, water pump, timing belt and the other parts is there anything big I have to change that might cost me alot of money?
No need to change tranny or wiring harness?
Is it a simple swap?
2008 Mazda 3
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
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the bp is can be had for cheap and it can take up to 25 psi on stock internals. If you are planning on upgrading the turbo on the bpt right away I would start off with the bp and buy the turbo mani for it that will be cheaper then buying a bpt and then ugrading the mani and the turbo. If you are not sure the bp can take some boost, talk to limegreen he's got a bp with stock internals and hes making 12 sec passes....
95 RS so far just a paintjob, rims suspension next then turbo...
I have turbo dreams and detanation nightmares
I have turbo dreams and detanation nightmares
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crank the boost
TREVO-Under major construction, Bp coming soon! TO a mx3 near you
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it's hard to decide, but if i'd ever do it again i'd be tempted to:
- 92-93 4Cyl
- BPT (maybe even Supercharge it? I like the N/A responce of the ZE)
- GS Steering rack
- GS Disk Brakes
- Possibly AWD (now that we know it's been done, I'd love too!) In that case, lowering it for racing or raise it for rally?
- 92-93 4Cyl
- BPT (maybe even Supercharge it? I like the N/A responce of the ZE)
- GS Steering rack
- GS Disk Brakes
- Possibly AWD (now that we know it's been done, I'd love too!) In that case, lowering it for racing or raise it for rally?
1992 Mazda Mx-3 GSR - 2.5L KLZE : Award Winning Show Car & Race Car ['02-'09] (Retired)
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
2004 Mazda RX-8 GT - Renesis Wankel : LS3 Coils, BHR Mid-Pipe + Falken RT-615K 245/40r18
2011 Mazda Mazda2 GS - 1.5L Manual : Yozora Edition (1 of 500)
2003 Nissan Xterra SE - 4x4 Supercharged : 2" Body Lift, 4" Suspension Lift & 33" MTR Kevlar
2001 Nissan Frontier SE - The Frontrailer : Expedition/Off-Road Trailer Project
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no avoid 94 and later RSs, the swap is easier on the 92 and 93Juans_93_MX3 wrote:Ok, so avoid pre 94 MX3s
93 MX-3 GS (collecting parts for Eunos Presso conversion), 94 626 Transmission (4.10 gears), KL31 camed KL-ZE, Millenia intake, Millenia TB, SSAutochrome V2 headers, Magnaflow cat, 2 1/4 in pipe, Top Speed Pro 1 muffler, 9lb Fidanza Flywheel, ACT clutch, Corksport SS clutch line, Corksport SS brake lines, Unorthadox UDP, 255 lph fuel pump, HEI mod, ghetto-charger intake, KL36 ECU, SRD transverse crossmember bushings, SRD shifter extention bushing, SRD crossmember, Corksport bronzoil shifter bushings, Brembo Crossdrilled and Slotted rotors, 15 inch Konig Heliums, ZX-2 S/R struts, Eibach lowering springs, OEM front strut bar, Ebay rear strut bar, BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDWs
Parts needing installed: turbo kit from BB (if i ever get it), 9.0:1 CR Diamond pistons, 4340 forged H beam rods, C/J-Spec spoiler, Nissan red tops in KL rails
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Parts needing installed: turbo kit from BB (if i ever get it), 9.0:1 CR Diamond pistons, 4340 forged H beam rods, C/J-Spec spoiler, Nissan red tops in KL rails
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[quote="94blaze1.6"]25 psi on stock internals..[/quote] 25 psi, iam crazy i'll boost that bi tc h up up 30psi and see if it can handle it. i am not afraid to try crazy shyt i love boost and if it give's well them i'll get another replacement.. there are a few crazy mazda guy up in these joint.
(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
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I think I am going to go that route then
Seeing that these BP engine have alot more potential then the KLZEs
I think I can get away with spending $2000 on a turbo system for the BP engine. Everything from fuel mangment to the turbo itself
What is the best turbo for a BP?
Seeing that these BP engine have alot more potential then the KLZEs
I think I can get away with spending $2000 on a turbo system for the BP engine. Everything from fuel mangment to the turbo itself
What is the best turbo for a BP?
2008 Mazda 3
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap