What kind of HP should I expect?

Teqnyck · Post by **Teqnyck** » February 18th, 2006, 2:58 am

Out of a klze mx3. I'm worried cause corksport is getting 165hp out of a klze with headers, exhaust, intake, and rechipped ecu. Is that normal? Seems awfully low to me. Opinions?

Mnemonic · Post by **Mnemonic** » February 18th, 2006, 3:25 am

with other modifications you can get more hp to your wheels but the general range for hp is 160-175

mxmaz · Post by **mxmaz** » February 18th, 2006, 8:12 am

Teqnyck wrote:Out of a klze mx3. I'm worried cause corksport is getting 165hp out of a klze with headers, exhaust, intake, and rechipped ecu. Is that normal? Seems awfully low to me. Opinions?

Yeah 165whp is pretty normal. ze's dont seem to respond to well to mods.

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » February 18th, 2006, 9:08 am

mxmaz wrote:
Teqnyck wrote:Out of a klze mx3. I'm worried cause corksport is getting 165hp out of a klze with headers, exhaust, intake, and rechipped ecu. Is that normal? Seems awfully low to me. Opinions?
Yeah 165whp is pretty normal. ze's dont seem to respond to well to mods.

kl's respond well to boost !!!

Selecta · Post by **Selecta** » February 18th, 2006, 11:16 am

I have a ZE with only an exhaust mod and I got 145WHP and 147TQ so with all that stuff 165WHP sounds good.

kl's respond well to boost !!!

Yeah I think you and Brandon have proven that with no doubt in anyones minds

Teqnyck · Post by **Teqnyck** » February 18th, 2006, 11:42 am

Wow, ok. Well, fast is fast no matter what your wheel rating is. I was just expecting a little more, i guess. It's still double my current hp, so i'm down with that.

mxmaz · Post by **mxmaz** » February 18th, 2006, 12:20 pm

Selecta wrote:I have a ZE with only an exhaust mod and I got 145WHP and 147TQ

Damn man thats very low. Assuming 15% drivetrain loss, that still doesnt even put you at 170hp and the ze's are supposed to be 200hp. What kind of dyno did you use? Is it possible you have a millenia de?

fieromx3 · Post by **fieromx3** » February 18th, 2006, 1:38 pm

ok something ive been wondering may sound dumb i dunno. if the kl-ze has more hp than tq wjy is it at the wheels ur usually getting more tq than hp it dont make sense to me

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » February 18th, 2006, 4:01 pm

is that a real ze? my kf pulls around a little to 140 tw .. i doubt the ze is the same sint it like 160 something? :/ hmmm

Teqnyck · Post by **Teqnyck** » February 18th, 2006, 6:23 pm

I'm curious, so many people going with the kf ze instead of the kl, why is that? more upgradeable or something?

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » February 18th, 2006, 8:24 pm

dont got kfze yes it has mad torque in 1st and secoind gear..once you hit 3rd the gears become to short and the engine becomes out of breath..it has k8 heads , has good cams but for gods sake get a klde. kf is not much of an upgrade. I can take on alot of cars in 1st and second gear east by like 2 car lengs then they always catch up. :/ get a de that one has torque all the way trough the power band and i believe its around 160 somethin torque..kf is around 140 torque. and thats the round port. For the same money you can get a ze or for cheaper a klde with more power. We did the swap because we well i got it instead of kl and wanted to see what was up with the engine. It is a good engine but not as good as others.

Selecta · Post by **Selecta** » February 18th, 2006, 10:59 pm

Selecta wrote:
I have a ZE with only an exhaust mod and I got 145WHP and 147TQ

Damn man thats very low. Assuming 15% drivetrain loss, that still doesnt even put you at 170hp and the ze's are supposed to be 200hp. What kind of dyno did you use? Is it possible you have a millenia de?

Well I was not the only one with those numbers. There were four of us who went and we all have checked the engine codes they are verified ZEs.

All of us got the same results, though we do belive there was something messed up at the dyno place

Mnemonic · Post by **Mnemonic** » February 20th, 2006, 3:50 am

hgallegos915 wrote:dont got kfze yes it has mad torque in 1st and secoind gear..once you hit 3rd the gears become to short and the engine becomes out of breath..it has k8 heads , has good cams but for gods sake get a klde. kf is not much of an upgrade. I can take on alot of cars in 1st and second gear east by like 2 car lengs then they always catch up. :/ get a de that one has torque all the way trough the power band and i believe its around 160 somethin torque..kf is around 140 torque. and thats the round port. For the same money you can get a ze or for cheaper a klde with more power. We did the swap because we well i got it instead of kl and wanted to see what was up with the engine. It is a good engine but not as good as others.

Somethings wrong with your motor buddy

ESPECIALLY SINCE dyno's prove that the kfze has the same mid range to upper power band that the klzes have. Just like my klze now it loves 4k+ in 3rd and 4th.

Of cource i had about 2k in head work with custom SS larger race valves, P&P, 3 angle valve job and a bunch of other little stuff.

You should of bought those heads for 200 when i was selling them. They went to a Lantis Type R owner in Malaysia

jschrauwen · Post by **jschrauwen** » February 20th, 2006, 11:48 am

Selecta wrote:
Selecta wrote:
I have a ZE with only an exhaust mod and I got 145WHP and 147TQ
Damn man thats very low. Assuming 15% drivetrain loss, that still doesnt even put you at 170hp and the ze's are supposed to be 200hp. What kind of dyno did you use? Is it possible you have a millenia de?
Well I was not the only one with those numbers. There were four of us who went and we all have checked the engine codes they are verified ZEs.
All of us got the same results, though we do belive there was something messed up at the dyno place

Uday, you guys should have gotten better numbers than that like mxmaz said. Would it have been you, Ian, Mikey and ???. What state of tune was eveyone's car in? - New plugs, good wires, 94 gas, correct air filter location, clean air filter, cleaned disty rotor contacts, cleaned disty cap contacts, oil change, TPS is tuned spot on, intake tract is clean, and last but not least - what was everyones compression test results prior to the dyno. If I remember correctly, Mikey has a compression readings that were around the 160's and 170's I think, which is rediculously low (= very bad sign). Is eveyone of the ZE's using a ZE IM, a ZE ECU, a ZE TB, a ZE VAF/MAF. Start removing any of these from the overall picture and of course your not going to see anywhere near the true ZE potential. This isn't even taking into consideration that everyone may not be running on perfectly serviceable O2's, with a serviceable/efficient/effective exhaust system (header, Cat, Pre silencer, muffler, tubing diameter). Again, more detractors from potential HP. Add it all up and it may not be suprising to see that your results were dramatically lower than normal.

Selecta · Post by **Selecta** » February 20th, 2006, 11:57 am

Selecta wrote:
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Selecta wrote:
I have a ZE with only an exhaust mod and I got 145WHP and 147TQ
Damn man thats very low. Assuming 15% drivetrain loss, that still doesnt even put you at 170hp and the ze's are supposed to be 200hp. What kind of dyno did you use? Is it possible you have a millenia de?

Well I was not the only one with those numbers. There were four of us who went and we all have checked the engine codes they are verified ZEs.
All of us got the same results, though we do belive there was something messed up at the dyno place
Uday, you guys should have gotten better numbers than that like mxmaz said. Would it have been you, Ian, Mikey and ???. What state of tune was eveyone's car in? - New plugs, good wires, 94 gas, correct air filter location, clean air filter, cleaned disty rotor contacts, cleaned disty cap contacts, oil change, TPS is tuned spot on, intake tract is clean, and last but not least - what was everyones compression test results prior to the dyno. If I remember correctly, Mikey has a compression readings that were around the 160's and 170's I think, which is rediculously low (= very bad sign). Is eveyone of the ZE's using a ZE IM, a ZE ECU, a ZE TB, a ZE VAF/MAF. Start removing any of these from the overall picture and of course your not going to see anywhere near the true ZE potential. This isn't even taking into consideration that everyone may not be running on perfectly serviceable O2's, with a serviceable/efficient/effective exhaust system (header, Cat, Pre silencer, muffler, tubing diameter). Again, more detractors from potential HP. Add it all up and it may not be suprising to see that your results were dramatically lower than normal.

Hey J,

It was Krish, Ian, Mke and Myself....later Oscar came.

Well for me I have never done a compression test...so I don't know what it is running at. As for the other stuff you mentioned the car pretty much walked in and got the dyno done...there was no pre-dyno checks or cleanups.

I will be getting the compression tested this spring to make sure all is in order before getting any additional work done on the car fo sho.

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