i did it!!! new engine!

fieromx3 · Post by **fieromx3** » September 26th, 2005, 6:40 pm

well i just made the deal i bought a kl-de engine for 250 bucks. i know a kl-ze is better but i couldnt pass up 250 buck engine. its supposably got 200k on it but that dont matter cuz over the winter im rippin it apart and rebuildin it and make it like new. i pick it up this friday and its in waterloo so it is very close to me. if the rebuild goes as planned i will keep u all posted with pix.

Trevor · Post by **Trevor** » September 26th, 2005, 6:43 pm

Con grats man can't wait to see you out with it!

fieromx3 · Post by **fieromx3** » September 26th, 2005, 6:48 pm

thx it wont be for a while since im rebuildin it and it will cost alot and be some time before i can put it in my car plus now i gotta get a standard tranny

Juans_93_MX3 · Post by **Juans_93_MX3** » September 26th, 2005, 6:58 pm

You should have went for a KLDE
Down here in Utah, I know someone who picked one up for only $250 with about 120k miles on it.

No replacement for displacement...

Teal_93 · Post by **Teal_93** » September 26th, 2005, 7:00 pm

You should have went for a KLDE

KL03 is a KLDE

Juans_93_MX3 · Post by **Juans_93_MX3** » September 26th, 2005, 7:04 pm

Teal_93 wrote:
You should have went for a KLDE
KL03 is a KLDE

LOL
My bad, I read his post too fast
I thought he said he got a KFZE

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » September 26th, 2005, 11:41 pm

dont ever get a kfze... it pulls sorta ok but klde is better and also its not cursed like the kf.

fieromx3 · Post by **fieromx3** » September 27th, 2005, 9:27 pm

durin my rebuild i plan on gettin wiseco forged pistons there r 3 different compression ratios i can get. i plan on supercharging in the future and be runnin about 12-14 psi of boost. what c/r ratio would suit this application best 8.5, 9.5 or 10.2. i know under boost conditions u want a lower c/r but i was thinkin that a kl-ze can handle like 7psi with cast pistons and rods and i would be runnin forged pistons/rods. also is honing the cylinders renew the cylinders? so if i did that and used std. sized pistons it would be like new?

vozaday2000 · Post by **vozaday2000** » September 27th, 2005, 11:32 pm

i personally think that 9.5 would be best, you can have a fair amount of boost with that cr with atleast some margin for error for your tuning. just my 2 cents

Post by **Custommx3** » September 28th, 2005, 9:57 am

hgallegos915 wrote: its not cursed like the kf.

You can say that again!

Almost every KFZE swap Ive heard of had bad luck.

BTW there is no such thing as a KL03, its just called a KL. People say KLDE just to differentiate between the American & Jspec versions of the KL. KL-De owners kept seeing KL03 on their motors (referring to part numbers) and hence spawned the alias

nope-mx3 · Post by **nope-mx3** » September 28th, 2005, 10:07 am

Get it bored out as much as you can with the wiseco pistons.
They deliver in .20 & .40 overbore.

That way you get "new" cylinderwalls, and basically a new engine.
Get the pistons .20 or .40, bring them to the machineshop and tell them do bore it out to fit these pistons.

nope-mx3

lakersfan1 · Post by **lakersfan1** » September 28th, 2005, 10:34 am

fieromx3 wrote:also is honing the cylinders renew the cylinders?

No. It 'scratches' (for lack of better term) up the cylinder walls so the new rings have something to rub against so they can seat properly. If you put new rings in a cylinder that's had the honing rubbed off already, the new rings will never seat, and you'll have crap compression in your cylinders.

fieromx3 · Post by **fieromx3** » September 28th, 2005, 5:11 pm

so can i go to almost any machine shop for cars? if not what places around me can bore it out? dont mention essential speed everyone has had probs. with them.

MX-SLICK · Post by **MX-SLICK** » September 28th, 2005, 6:27 pm

nope-mx3 wrote:Get it bored out as much as you can with the wiseco pistons.
They deliver in .20 & .40 overbore.

That way you get "new" cylinderwalls, and basically a new engine.
Get the pistons .20 or .40, bring them to the machineshop and tell them do bore it out to fit these pistons.

nope-mx3

When i had my block at the machine shop the preformance mechanic said there is not a significant enough gain to be boaring the life out of your engine. So basically you turn the block into a disposable block because once you need to rebuild it for whatever reason there is no meat left to work because you machined it all away. Also if the cylinder walls get too thin you may risk having poor heat transfer and risk seizing the engine... He talked me into stock size weisco pistons... I do wish i had an extra block lying around to appreciate the preformance gain of bigger displacment...

fieromx3 · Post by **fieromx3** » October 2nd, 2005, 4:12 pm

well when i picked the engine up i found out that point zero has an ms8 IM and they will sell it for 150 dollars with the TB. is this a good deal? also for functionality reasons should i make a custom IM or just spend the money and get the ms8? id ont care for looks i just want the functionality for more horsepower. also pix of the engine r comin real soon.