16G turbo on a BP = Sleeper :wink:

rebel2k4 · Post by **rebel2k4** » June 7th, 2005, 11:04 pm

BTW: What kind of welder do you use? Brand, model, etc?

JWMotorsports · Post by **JWMotorsports** » June 9th, 2005, 4:00 pm

It's a Lincoln Precision 185 High Frequency Square Wave TIG w/ Pure Argon for sheilding gas.

Input is 230VAC w/ up to 50amps of draw.

Output is rated at 5-185amps AC, DC+, or DC- and it can weld upto 1/2" thick Stainless Steel w/ a single pass.

It has a LOT of adjustability and weighs in at a hefty 212lbs!

Click the link below to see it on Licoln's site:

http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalo ... sp?p=12813

rebel2k4 · Post by **rebel2k4** » June 11th, 2005, 3:48 pm

Wow, thats a pretty impressive welder.

Looks like you're pretty skilled with it as well. I've never tried TIG, but I've heard it's pretty tricky.

I'm about to buy a chicago electric MIG. I'm going to get the gas conversion kit for it because flux core is a joke. Time for some new turbo pipes with a FMIC

BTW, how do you go about running a 230V input welder? Isn't that the 3 prong that is generally used for washer/dryer plugs?

JWMotorsports · Post by **JWMotorsports** » June 12th, 2005, 1:10 am

Yes that is what most dryers use. I'd recommend having an electrician run a new circuit from the main breaker box using 6-3 gauge wire or thicker. We used an existing line where my father used to have a hot tub and extended it out to the garage. 50' of 6-3 underground wire with a external mount junction box ran me around $100. The 185 Precision TIG w/ Ready Pack was $1530 from http://www.weilerdirect.com/

As for the welding, my friend did the welds. I own a kick a$$ TIG but haven't had time for him to teach me yet. I've been watching him and so far all I'm good at doing is burning holes!

We're trying to get my drag car running before I break another tranny in the RX-7 (I'm planning on a Turbo II drive line swap). But now that he had an unfortunate accident (fell and damaged ligiments in his shoulder) I'll have to learn how to TIG weld now with his guidence. With practice I'll been fine, so far I've only tried it twice.

JWMotorsports · Post by **JWMotorsports** » July 2nd, 2005, 12:55 pm

UPDATE on project:

06/24/05 We went to a 1/8th mile track in Natural Bridge, VA

9.062 sec. @ 81 MPH (the track was like driving on wet pavement!)

We were turning faster trap speeds than an STi there. The STi was running 28psi w/ no exhaust (turbo down pipe to atmosphere). The track was REALLY slick and the STi was pulling about 6 cars on us out of the hole. But after our car started to hook a little it pulled on the STi. We were on his bumper and passing him coming through the 1/8th mile traps. If it had been a 1/4 mile we would have pulled about 10 cars on the STi. The sleeper is only running about 10psi. To give you an idea of how slick the track was my RX-7 will barely bark 2nd gear on the street. On the drag strip my RX-7 spun ALL the way through 2nd gear (I beat a Camero). The STi was averaging 8.7 sec @ around 78 MPH

Next plans are to add an FMU, external wastegate, and turn up the boost!

Right now the 440cc injectors are maxed out under boost w/ the 1:1 RRFPR (off of 323 turbo fuel rail)

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » July 4th, 2005, 4:33 pm

Hey Jeremy you forgot to mention our first diff explosion,lol. On my 10th run of the night(up against a built mustang 5.0) I popped the diff on the line, so i just stabbed it to the floor and finished my run, still pulling 2 or 3 cars on the mustang that had beat me in a previous run. We got it back home that night and by the next day we had pulled it out rebuilt it and put it back in the car.(Im rapidly becoming a big fan of backup parts)

mitmaks · Post by **mitmaks** » July 4th, 2005, 5:30 pm

thats sweet setup man. its real sleeper

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » July 4th, 2005, 11:30 pm

Hey man thanks, its nice to have someone supporting you rather than everyone criticizing you

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » July 28th, 2005, 10:53 pm

Hey i just realized my link was bad, for those of you who might want to see the car or watch progress i fixed the link to my cardomain site.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1404826

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » September 3rd, 2005, 4:13 pm

Ok well...to start off i finally killed the motor...blew the rings out of cyl 1 ...keep in mind this motor was pulled directly out of a junkyard and thrown in the car so it lasted long past our expectations...when i first tested compression on the bp it looked like this...cyl1 135, cyl2 145, cyl3 140, cyl4 150....so the motor was running far below stock compression...getting ready to order new parts for a stock rebuild and there is another dyno day coming up in october, im hoping to make it there and ill post results at both the same boost level as previous test and at about 15-18lbs...also have a new equal lengt manifold in the works and possibly a accel dfi gen 6 standalone...thinking about buying one from jwmotorsports...when i finish the new manifold i will be upgrading the turbo to a T3 60-1 so if you might be interested in buying my current setup let me know....

Too much Time · Post by **Too much Time** » September 8th, 2005, 9:52 pm

JWMotorsports wrote:We got tired of playing with the all motor BP setup. The car is running pretty good, smacking local Hondas left and right running all motor. We decided that it's time stop advancing the timing (setting at 26* advance currently) and give the turbo Hondas a hidden dose of their own medicine. We're keeping it sleeperfied for the moment.

We fabed up a short runner manifold (my left over manifold pieces), picked up the slightly used 16G turbo from my brother's Talon (I'm rebuilding it with a GT32 turbo, oversized valves, blah blah blah), jacked the side mount IC and BLOV off of it while we were at it, and I donated my old RC Eng 440cc injectors. The car already has a Wahlbro 255 pump in it, Jacobs Ignition, Magnacore KV85 Plug Wires, SPEC light weight flywheel, ACT racing clutch, and massive weight reduction.

The side mount intercooler is going in front of the driver side wheel well, it required a little more weight reduction to make it fit . We're even using the stock DSM IC hoses (for now).

Here are some pics of the turbo manifold with the 16G just bolted to it (those are the stock DSM Oil and Water lines still on it). We'll keep posting updates...soon to include time slips, etc...

I WANT A 16G SO BAD!!!

I might go with a 50 trim or a 20G for my future setup.

You are going to smack some serious a-- with that thing.

It has better handling than a DSM and weighs like 500 lbs less.

BTW - I have a DSM

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » September 9th, 2005, 1:37 am

actually its a little more like 1600-1800lbs difference..BTW

Too much Time · Post by **Too much Time** » September 9th, 2005, 10:26 am

check your numbers bro,

either way, it seems like a sick setup

BuGS · Post by **BuGS** » September 9th, 2005, 10:42 am

Too much Time wrote:check your numbers bro,

either way, it seems like a sick setup

I think he has stripped his car and I know for sure that DSM's are around 1000lb heavier at least. Both my bro's first gen and my friend's sister 2nd gen eclipses are like 3400 and 3750

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » September 9th, 2005, 1:47 pm

talons are 3600+ my car is right at 2000...you do the math

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16G turbo on a BP = Sleeper :wink:

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Update on sleeper

Re: 16G turbo on a BP = Sleeper :wink:

ok

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