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So you haven't floored it with your centerforce yet?
I'm having alot of slipping with my centerforce dual friction on my setup. I have the same tranny (Protege GT 95) and running at 13 psi.
I'm going to change to something stronger at the end of the month, centerforce is full of crap on a BPT (I've got 2 other friends with BPTs which had a centerforce, they both had problem with it), I wasn't aware of that when I bought it, the seller said "it will hold up 250hp bla bla" - wrong.
Mine is slipping when I shift from, for example, 3rd to 4th, or when I hold it for 3 seconds in 5th gear.
I hope you won't have much problem with it, feel free to give me your comments about the clutch at the end of the summer!
Nice car!
I'm having alot of slipping with my centerforce dual friction on my setup. I have the same tranny (Protege GT 95) and running at 13 psi.
I'm going to change to something stronger at the end of the month, centerforce is full of crap on a BPT (I've got 2 other friends with BPTs which had a centerforce, they both had problem with it), I wasn't aware of that when I bought it, the seller said "it will hold up 250hp bla bla" - wrong.
Mine is slipping when I shift from, for example, 3rd to 4th, or when I hold it for 3 seconds in 5th gear.
I hope you won't have much problem with it, feel free to give me your comments about the clutch at the end of the summer!
Nice car!
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HOLY s---!!!!!!!!! I KNEW IT... I ---damn WELL KNEW IT..
That clutch is a piece of s---.. Mine does the EXACT same thing..
It just wont hold the power.. It slips on the highway if you try and pass someone and you hit boost.. s--- s--- s---! I knew that clutch was ghetto.. ---damn it now I need to take that friggin transmission out again and replace that clutch again! This is terrible but at least its nice to know that im not the only one thats having this problem.. CENTERFORCE IS CRAP!
That clutch is a piece of s---.. Mine does the EXACT same thing..
It just wont hold the power.. It slips on the highway if you try and pass someone and you hit boost.. s--- s--- s---! I knew that clutch was ghetto.. ---damn it now I need to take that friggin transmission out again and replace that clutch again! This is terrible but at least its nice to know that im not the only one thats having this problem.. CENTERFORCE IS CRAP!
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settle down there buddy, your gonna pop a blood vessel! My advice, when you do replace it w/ something better, sent the clutch back with a nice pile of dog poo in the package and a sign taped to it that says: LIARS! there ya go...
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agreed, its the right thing to do.93SOHC wrote:settle down there buddy, your gonna pop a blood vessel! My advice, when you do replace it w/ something better, sent the clutch back with a nice pile of dog poo in the package and a sign taped to it that says: LIARS! there ya go...
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Yeah totally! I have been back and forth to the guy I got the clutch from wondering what could be wrong with it.. stuck slave cylinder? oil on the clutch?.. but now I know that the clutch just is crap. I knew it from the second I got it that it was going to be no good. They better give me a refund or something.
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Sad, but true
I had this clutch for not even 10 000 km, I mosty used it this winter (last winter my mx will see) and I could considere it still brand new, but unfortunately, it's crap in my MX (and yours too!)
Marlon, I don't know much about mix/match in clutches. Are you saying a "clutch kit" for MX-6 would be directly compatible with our Protege GT tranny/flywheel?
Or we would need to use X disk with Y pressure plate?
(BTW, I'd prefer to have a street disk rather than a race ALA 4 puck disk, but if it's unavoidable, I'll take the race disk)
Edit : Like this clutch kit?
http://www.advancedclutch.com/ProductCa ... oduct=1129
Sorry if I'm out of your original topic
I had this clutch for not even 10 000 km, I mosty used it this winter (last winter my mx will see) and I could considere it still brand new, but unfortunately, it's crap in my MX (and yours too!)
Marlon, I don't know much about mix/match in clutches. Are you saying a "clutch kit" for MX-6 would be directly compatible with our Protege GT tranny/flywheel?
Or we would need to use X disk with Y pressure plate?
(BTW, I'd prefer to have a street disk rather than a race ALA 4 puck disk, but if it's unavoidable, I'll take the race disk)
Edit : Like this clutch kit?
http://www.advancedclutch.com/ProductCa ... oduct=1129
Sorry if I'm out of your original topic
i have the Heavy Duty Pressure Plate, Street/Strip Disc
that setup is good for 285 Torque
if u need more holding power get the Street/Strip Disc with a extreme pressure plate thats what corsport uses on there race cars
the mx-6 clutch will work but u have to use the Pilot Bearing and Release Bearing for a protege gt or escort gt
i've had this clutch in my car for 6 months with no problems, it grabs so hard i can chrip 4th gears with a stock bp
heres some info on the mx-6 clutch
Z62-HDSS
SKU: 83705500864
This kit includes these components:
MZ-015 - Heavy Duty Pressure Plate
MZSD056S - Performance Street Disc
Torque Capacity: 285 ft/lbs
that setup is good for 285 Torque
if u need more holding power get the Street/Strip Disc with a extreme pressure plate thats what corsport uses on there race cars
the mx-6 clutch will work but u have to use the Pilot Bearing and Release Bearing for a protege gt or escort gt
i've had this clutch in my car for 6 months with no problems, it grabs so hard i can chrip 4th gears with a stock bp
heres some info on the mx-6 clutch
Z62-HDSS
SKU: 83705500864
This kit includes these components:
MZ-015 - Heavy Duty Pressure Plate
MZSD056S - Performance Street Disc
Torque Capacity: 285 ft/lbs
1993 MX-3 GS V6 - Stock
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So I called centerforce about the slipping. Get this... The centerforce dual friction clutch is only rated for a maximum 200 ft/lbs of torque!!! What a piece of crap.. The starting motor almost makes that much for gods sake..
That clutch is coming outta there and I am getting something better. I am thinking of an act.. mabey even a bulley.. I am gonna get one rated for 270 torque or mabey even 300.. that way it certinally wont slip.
That clutch is coming outta there and I am getting something better. I am thinking of an act.. mabey even a bulley.. I am gonna get one rated for 270 torque or mabey even 300.. that way it certinally wont slip.
93 MX3, BP, Haltech E6X, Bully Six Puck Clutch, Pauter Rods, Wiseco Pistons, Port and Polish, Turbonetics T3/T4 Ball Bearing turbo and a partridge in a pear tree.
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i got an ACT on my KL-ZE, no slipage, decent clutch really, has really taken a beating from me
93 MX-3 GS (collecting parts for Eunos Presso conversion), 94 626 Transmission (4.10 gears), KL31 camed KL-ZE, Millenia intake, Millenia TB, SSAutochrome V2 headers, Magnaflow cat, 2 1/4 in pipe, Top Speed Pro 1 muffler, 9lb Fidanza Flywheel, ACT clutch, Corksport SS clutch line, Corksport SS brake lines, Unorthadox UDP, 255 lph fuel pump, HEI mod, ghetto-charger intake, KL36 ECU, SRD transverse crossmember bushings, SRD shifter extention bushing, SRD crossmember, Corksport bronzoil shifter bushings, Brembo Crossdrilled and Slotted rotors, 15 inch Konig Heliums, ZX-2 S/R struts, Eibach lowering springs, OEM front strut bar, Ebay rear strut bar, BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDWs
Parts needing installed: turbo kit from BB (if i ever get it), 9.0:1 CR Diamond pistons, 4340 forged H beam rods, C/J-Spec spoiler, Nissan red tops in KL rails
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Parts needing installed: turbo kit from BB (if i ever get it), 9.0:1 CR Diamond pistons, 4340 forged H beam rods, C/J-Spec spoiler, Nissan red tops in KL rails
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Which disk do you have, street or race disk?
I think I'll take the MX-6 clutch kit. Their street disk can hold 285 lbs/torque, it should be enough.
I'll order it next week and I'll go @ mazda to buy the pilot bearing and the throw out bearing. I'll install my stainless steel clutchline at the same time of that clutch.
Thanks Marlon for the tip, I hope I won't have problem anymore with my clutch!
I think I'll take the MX-6 clutch kit. Their street disk can hold 285 lbs/torque, it should be enough.
I'll order it next week and I'll go @ mazda to buy the pilot bearing and the throw out bearing. I'll install my stainless steel clutchline at the same time of that clutch.
Thanks Marlon for the tip, I hope I won't have problem anymore with my clutch!
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i would suggest getting the Unorthodox racing clutch, or talk to Bugs on the forum cause he got the same one but cheeper than i by the company that makes them for Unorthodox, his actually has a stronger presure plate. but its a 6 puc ceramic W/ a sprung hub. you will have absolutely no issues what so ever and will have rush hour traffic driveability. very nice clutch. way better than the ACT i had. no chatter when take off, i think the clutch is rated at lik 300 or 350, something like that. iv had no problems at 16 psi.
i heard of several KLZE's with centerforce that were slipping after a few thousand miles, its the same one everyone told me to get. i knew they were dog crap. hope you can get it all worked out.
on the lighter side your car still looks sweet as hell.
i heard of several KLZE's with centerforce that were slipping after a few thousand miles, its the same one everyone told me to get. i knew they were dog crap. hope you can get it all worked out.
on the lighter side your car still looks sweet as hell.
Josh
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