Phenolic Spacers? Ignition wires?

Hoodzy · Post by **Hoodzy** » March 23rd, 2005, 3:35 pm

so ya i was reading the basic mods for the V6 and phenolic spacers were mentioned seemed like a worthwhile mod to add but the links on the faq were not working so is there a new site as to where i should find info on these or how to anywhere, i tried search

also ignition wires thats what they are called right?? they would add like 1hp right?? you guys have any preference as to what aftermarket wires would be good, or if its even worth it
thanks!!

neutral · Post by **neutral** » March 23rd, 2005, 5:20 pm

Outlaw Engineering sells the intake spacers. Try here... http://www.outlawengineering.com/index.html

Hoodzy · Post by **Hoodzy** » March 23rd, 2005, 8:41 pm

awesome thanks
have any you guys used these???
easy to install?

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » March 24th, 2005, 9:49 am

I am using them..yeah they are easy to install

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » March 24th, 2005, 7:57 pm

are these really worth getting in a k8? I meanitself being the k8, would this have the same effect as having an inverted style hood?

bmwm3guy · Post by **bmwm3guy** » March 24th, 2005, 8:21 pm

hgallegos915 wrote:are these really worth getting in a k8? I meanitself being the k8, would this have the same effect as having an inverted style hood?

was that supposed to be a stupid question?

In case it wasn't, I don't think an inverted style hood will help unless you're playing NFS:U2 and you need the style points.

From what I've heard, they're pretty useless. Despite some convincing "testemonials" on their website... I dunno, I havn't heard from a lot of people on this topic.

kiwi_MX3 · Post by **kiwi_MX3** » March 25th, 2005, 3:30 am

My 2 cents worth, the priciple is fine the execution is not...

First you have that lovely hot water being directed around the
throttle body, secondly the under hood temps on these cars is
hot REAL hot, so you are going to get heat transfer anyway....

scmorgan · Post by **scmorgan** » March 25th, 2005, 1:36 pm

Yes, the TB is heated by coolant which is why we include a ThermoBlok TB spacer to reduce heat transfer to the intake from the TB.

The underhood temps are high, but the manifold gains much more heat from conduction through the 220F cylinder heads than the underhood air.

Cheers,

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » March 25th, 2005, 3:21 pm

Yeah thats why I was asking..i mean yeah they make it run cooler..but well...why if its a k8..know what I mean?

bmwm3guy wrote:
hgallegos915 wrote:are these really worth getting in a k8? I meanitself being the k8, would this have the same effect as having an inverted style hood?
was that supposed to be a stupid question? In case it wasn't, I don't think an inverted style hood will help unless you're playing NFS:U2 and you need the style points.

From what I've heard, they're pretty useless. Despite some convincing "testemonials" on their website... I dunno, I havn't heard from a lot of people on this topic.

cashmoneyspeed · Post by **cashmoneyspeed** » March 25th, 2005, 4:58 pm

I have them installed. Took me about 4 hours with replacing the valve cover gaskets. Before without them, i couldnt tough the manifold after a nice long expressway drive. After installing them, i can hold my hand right on the manifold without burning myself. I would definately recomend them. I also had my intake manifold port matched when i installed them. You may also consider bypassing the throttle body coolant lines just for ease of removal and installation and some people say it helps keep heat down.

As for the ignition wires, i'd just use the regular stock NGK. Big wires won't give you any hp.

jschrauwen · Post by **jschrauwen** » March 25th, 2005, 8:31 pm

bmwm3guy wrote:
hgallegos915 wrote:are these really worth getting in a k8? I meanitself being the k8, would this have the same effect as having an inverted style hood?
was that supposed to be a stupid question?

ROTFLMAO

Nallboy · Post by **Nallboy** » March 28th, 2005, 12:41 pm

cashmoneyspeed wrote: You may also consider bypassing the throttle body coolant lines just for ease of removal and installation and some people say it helps keep heat down.

Yeah the kit comes with a little hose connector so you can just bypass the coolant lines altogether = no "lovely hot water being directed around the throttle body"

They're really easy to install; just gotta keep track of your vacuum lines. I just installed mine last night, meaning I finally put my IM on.. almost there!

jschrauwen · Post by **jschrauwen** » March 28th, 2005, 1:47 pm

cashmoneyspeed and nallboy, are you both going to or are bypassing the the coolant line to the TB. The reason I asked is, is that that's how mine came after the ZE swap. After a lengthy search, I was informed that not having the coolant lines in the TB would give way to erratic idle issues and hot engine re-start problems. Idle issues like searching idle and high revs, most attributed to a lack of coolant lines running to the TB. I believe it has to do with water temp info in TB being sent to ecu and the resulting corrections made by the ecu to correct or compensate, ie searching idle, high idle revs etc. Have either of you tried both set-ups?

scmorgan, I posted a query on the buy and sell forum for you to clear up for me wrt phenolic spacer group buy. I need to know which of the 2 KLZE packages to order. Thanks

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » March 28th, 2005, 1:59 pm

jschrauwen wrote:cashmoneyspeed and nallboy, are you both going to or are bypassing the the coolant line to the TB. The reason I asked is, is that that's how mine came after the ZE swap. After a lengthy search, I was informed that not having the coolant lines in the TB would give way to erratic idle issues and hot engine re-start problems. Idle issues like searching idle and high revs, most attributed to a lack of coolant lines running to the TB. I believe it has to do with water temp info in TB being sent to ecu and the resulting corrections made by the ecu to correct or compensate, ie searching idle, high idle revs etc. Have either of you tried both set-ups?

asbolutely right..this mod is not worth it at all

Nallboy · Post by **Nallboy** » March 28th, 2005, 3:08 pm

I haven't gotten my engine running yet. I was kinda debating on the bypass part. The manual says it would affect only vehicles in really cold climates by causing the TB to freeze over...? guess that part's not worth messing around with.